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fandomsecrets2012-07-29 12:11 pm
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Re: Let's get some demographics in here?
(Anonymous) 2012-08-01 06:51 am (UTC)(link)I think that SJW's (in the stereotypical foaming-at-the-mouth sense) are much rarer than many people in fandom make them out to be. They do exist (and I'll get to them in a moment), but the term itself is used to silence honest critique just as often as it's used to call out bad behaviour, ime.
That said, actual SJW's seem to exist in two varieties. The first are the people who really do fit all the criticisms. They relish the kind of toxic call-out culture that lets them assert their superiority, and they've just appropriated the language of social justice because it's a convenient way to do so at this particular moment on the fora that they have available. They're the kind of people who, historically, would be accusing others of witchcraft or Communism if that was what it took to elevate themselves in their own tiny minds and in their communities. I have no patience for them.
The other variety are annoying, but I do believe they mean well. They're people who, I think, have a very simplified understanding of basic concepts of kyriarchy and also have a bit of guilt about the role they inevitably play in maintaining that system (And here's a tip for them: We all do things that prop up pre-existing power structures. We couldn't survive in the world as it is if we didn't. There's no need to feel guilty or defensive because of it.). The way that they assuage their guilt (or sweep it under the rug if they refuse to acknowledge it) is by making themselves "the solution" by calling out injustice wherever they see it.
However, because of their only rudimentary grasp on the structure of the system their trying to dismantle, they lack a sense of proportion, and they often misuse or misappropriate concepts they don't fully understand. I think the way "tone argument" is used by many of these people is a great example. The idea of the tone argument originated as a way of pointing out the unfairness of expecting minority groups (in the power sense, not the number one before someone chimes in with the old "women aren't a minority" argument again) to respond to demeaning language, stereotypes, portrayals, and so one with nothing but kindness and willingness to educate. Many SJW's, however, will use the idea of a "tone argument" to try to justify spewing hate at the slightest provocation even when they themselves don't even belong to the minority group being maligned.
This second group, though, I do have some hope for. Like I said above, I do think many people in this category have good intentions, even if they do lack deeper understanding and impulse control. In time, if they truly do care about equality and are genuinely willing to engage in self-reflection, I think they can mature a bit and really contribute to discussions of social justice issues in a more meaningful way.
That's my novella-length take on things, for what it's worth.