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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-31 07:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #2037 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-08-01 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
We have a show in Germany which is called "the model and the freak" and it basically shows supposedly "ugly" nerds being made as clasically attractive as possible by a couple of models. If it would really be about helping them feel more confident and attractive I wouldn't mind but this whole show is really degrading.

So yeah, I don't think "ugly" guys have it any easier than "ugly" girls.

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-08-01 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Really? Guys are given a lot more leeway personality or skill wise. They're allowed to be defined by so many more things and are valued outside of their appearance. Whereas people mock supreme court justices for not being "fuckable" when they are women. The definition of attractive for men is also a helluva lot broader and easier to achieve. A woman is pretty much hot or not and it's generally viewed as a personal failure if she isn't.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-01 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
A+

(Anonymous) 2012-08-01 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly!

And yes I realize I'm a bitter old spinster (at 23) because I have a hard time getting through Wall-e without getting a bit pissed that he can find love and I can't. Of course real life is too boring/depressing to make a movie of. It does "help" that I have to listen to my coworkers endlessly complain about their girlfriends and wives - guys are all douchbags and women settle ^^

(Anonymous) 2012-08-01 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
"guys are all douchebags". No, they really aren't. The ones you know, well, maybe.

Plain Jane here happily married to a fine bloke for 27 years. No douchbags in sight.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-02 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
High-fucking-five.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-01 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
And even being "hot" isn't enough to "win". See how often attractive women in high positions are derided and rumored to have slept their way to the top, and heaven help the woman not dressing conservatively enough or wearing make-up. (Or not dressing liberally enough and not wearing make-up.)

I'm not saying that men don't have other ridiculous stuff to deal with in society, but women sometimes just can't win because they're judged on looks first.

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-08-01 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I do not disagree with you just didn't want to get tl;Dr and my main point was the expectations for women and men's looks are in no way comparable.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-01 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I wasn't disagreeing with you either, just venting.

Er, sorry for the misunderstanding!