[ SECRET POST #2039 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2039 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

...Are you seriously trying to call yaoi BDSM?

[(Anonymous)]

no i'm calling it a kink that is heavily related to D/S which is not BDSM

[(Anonymous)]

It is not D/S, though. Dominant and Submissive is.

Seme and uke are literally about Japan's homophobia and needing there to be a woman in the relationship. Just how homosexuals in Japanese media tend to want sex changes, because according to the prevalent mindset, if you're sleeping with men, you MUST want to be a woman!!! They are not a kink. They are homophobic and sexist stereotypes.

Yes, literally, they refer to dominant/submissive. However, they are heavy with connotations and carry heavy baggage.

[(Anonymous)]

you missed the word related

and your view of "context matters!" appears to only work one way. a japanese person actually buying into the sexual stereotypes in a culture that promotes those sexual stereotypes is different from someone in the UK or something enjoying reading yaoi because it turns them on

[(Anonymous)]

Because that person in the UK doesn't know the history.

Which is why I have gone into the history.

By this argument, someone who never knew the word cunt was offensive and finds it a lovely word despite it being deeply rooted in sexism is still allowed to go around using it and slinging it around even after being educated.

[(Anonymous)]

How is learning about context in any way going to influence them being turned on by it...seriously?

[(Anonymous)]

At least they'll know how problematic it actually is instead of insisting that it being fictional makes it okay.

[(Anonymous)]

Would you prefer if I called it m/m relationships with an unhealthy yaoi dynamic?

[(Anonymous)]

So, applying the same logic, liking *any* submissive female/dominant male relationship, ever, is misogynist because of history and how it's been offensively touted as how it *should* be for centuries? There's a history behind that too.

[(Anonymous)]

It's a difference between liking something with a very, very narrow meaning and a very broad meaning. Heterosexual couples have never been just one type of relationship, and we even see it in ancient myths--sometimes women do get to be the dominant personality.

It's the difference between vagina and cunt, basically. Vagina is fairly broad in meaning. Cunt, however, means the same thing but is an insult.

[cashay]

But what if I like the word cunt? I mean seriously, with that logic if you enjoy being degraded/humiliated during sex as a woman with words like "cunt" and similiar ones that makes you misogynistic. Which is a really stupid idea.

People can enjoy thing in porn that they know are hurtful when applied outside of a consensual and safe space there's nothing wrong with that. So what if they like Seme/Uke? You could apply the same bad historical context theory to a lot of other kinks.