[ SECRET POST #2043 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2043 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'd be happy enough with that if I thought the majority of people who hated on Cat did so honestly based on who she is in the books. As of ADWD I very strongly dislike Tyrion, despite understanding why he is the way he is.

But they don't. They have a gut level reaction and just scream the words "bitch" and "child abuser" repeatedly instead of bothering to work out what's actually at play in Cat's character.

Cat's story is complicated, and her relationship with Jon can't be translated into a modern AU. Most people can't be arsed do the necessary interpretative work to engage with that.

I've met a couple of Cat haters who were willing to take the time to think through their opinions and support them diligently with arguments built from the text. I respect them and take their opinions on board when rethinking my own position. They're vastly outnumbered by the sexists, the black-and-white moralists, and the prickly Jon-fen.

[(Anonymous)]

Catelyn stans are always stressing that she was not obligated to love Jon. And they're right.

But guess what? That cuts both ways. The "prickly Jon-fen" are not obligated to love a character who wasn't kind to a character they do love. They have every right to dislike Catelyn because of how she made Jon feel. It's as valid a reason as any to dislike a character, and the prickly Cat-fen should learn to accept that.

[(Anonymous)]

Feeling a bit prickly there?

Didn't say you didn't have the right to dislike Cat. Didn't say anything close to that.

Did say that the majority of Cat haters never get further than that gut dislike and mount rationalisations for it based on spurious evidence and downright crappy textual analysis.

Shorter version - I don't resent your side for disliking my favourite. I dislike it for promoting shallow and inaccurate readings which are held together with bile, not logic.