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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-08-07 06:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #2044 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2044 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Yamato nadeshiko Shichi Henge/Perfect Girl Evolution]


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[Suits]


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[A Song of Ice and Fire]


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[Yamato nadeshiko Shichi Henge]


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[Sherlock BBC]


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[Homestuck]


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[Sherlock]


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[Stargate Atlantis]


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[Cyborg 009]


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[The Amazing Spiderman]


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[Stargate Universe]


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[Avatar: the Last Airbender]


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[Bunheads/Game of Thrones]


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[thesyndicateproject (youtube)]


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[Codex Alera]


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[Wishbone]


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[The Game OverThinker]


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[K-ON!]


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[Magical Diary]


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[personal profile] fenm 2012-08-08 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
He clearly understands the no interest in sex part but is unlikely to be aware that asexuals can experience sexual attraction

But he didn't say Sherlock is an asexual who found himself experiencing sexual attraction; he say he was asexual UNTIL he met Irene. Imagine if Ben said, "Sherlock was gay until he met
Irene". Not, "He met Irene and started questioning his sexuality", just "he was gay until..."

which you seem to be unaware of as well.

I know asexuals can experience sexual attractions. But that's not what Ben said.

Irene's always been a woman

Yeah, no shit. I mean, of course Ben said it was meeting a woman that awakened his sexuality, and not, say, John. Or, hell, even Moriarty. But, no, of course Sherlock is straight.
Edited 2012-08-08 02:48 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2012-08-08 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
You really seem to be fishing for ways to turn this into deliberate acephobia and not a very easy mistake. If Cumberbatch is unaware that grey-A exists, it stands to reason that he would think Sherlock's interest in Irene means that Sherlock had to depart from asexuality to be interested. Sherlock's interest in Irene is canon. Just because Sherlock and John's relationship is homoerotic as hell doesn't mean there's any sexual interest on Sherlock's part. Are you calling ACD a bigot? I really don't understand what you think you're trying to say.

I hear this same shit with bisexuality all the time. "She went lesbian" or "He was straight until he met him". Both examples are bisexual, but a lot of people see it as an abrupt change rather than a shift along a spectrum. It's the way people understand sexuality because they don't know any better. Asexuality's name makes this an easy mistake, so I don't see why you're all flustered about this. It's not like some sexualities where you can look at the name and immediately know what the meaning is.
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[personal profile] fenm 2012-08-08 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
You really seem to be fishing for ways to turn this into deliberate acephobia and not a very easy mistake

I don't think it's outright bigotry, I think it is, as you say, ignorance.

he would think Sherlock's interest in Irene means that Sherlock had to depart from asexuality to be interested.

Right, that's true.

Really, ultimately, my point is this: People sometimes use Cumberbatch's comments that Sherlock's not asexual to bolster their claim that he's not (you can see examples of it in this very tread). But if Cumberbatch doesn't even understand what asexuality is, why should I take his word?

Are you calling ACD a bigot?

Where are you even getting that from?

Sherlock's interest in Irene is canon.

Interest her intellect, yes. But if you're referring to ACD canon, it's explicitly stated he wasn't in love with her.
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[personal profile] tweedisgood 2012-08-08 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
Sherlock's interest in Irene may be canon, Holmes' interest in her is not. ACD quite specifically says that Holmes was NOT romantically interested in Irene Adler. So kindly leave ACD out of it.
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[personal profile] fenm 2012-08-08 08:16 am (UTC)(link)
And even though Sherlock's interest in Irene may be canon, there's nothing overtly sexual about it. It could easily be the same "interest in her intellect" as in ACD canon.
Edited 2012-08-08 08:22 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2012-08-09 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
Right. It sounds to me like he's saying "He didn't consider having sex with anyone until he met her." He didn't say abstinent or celibate because it sounds like a choice to not act on sexual feelings, and he's saying he didn't have any to struggle with.