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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-08-10 07:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #2047 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2047 ⌋

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[personal profile] visp 2012-08-11 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
You're just reaching for anything to make your point look good. And, might I add, failing spectacularly. What Jaime did was bad, but he did it to save the lives of his lover and 3 children. What Tyrion did, he did out of hurt pride and generally being pissed off. The 'why' matters.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-11 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
The why matters

Good to know. I guess the fact that Tywin caused the Red Wedding as a way to win without further bloodshed mitigates the fact that Catelyn and Robb were butchered.5
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[personal profile] visp 2012-08-11 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
and we started talking about Tywin... when? Tywin's an asshole - that's pretty clearly established as soon as he's mentioned.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-11 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
Yes but as you said the 'why' matters.

If Jaime's tossing a child out of a window is mitigated by him looking out for his children, then Tywin's slaughter should be mitigated by the fact that he was trying to win the war in a way that saved more lives and not out of any personal rage.
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[personal profile] visp 2012-08-11 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
It was also the Westerosi equivalent of a War Crime. But yes, given your example, Tywin is seen as pretty shitty for agreeing to it, but Lord Frey is seen as far worse, because he just did it out of hurt pride and spite. So the same logic applies.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-11 08:01 am (UTC)(link)
It didn't save more lives. That was an excuse, in reality thousands of people were butchered.
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[personal profile] demishock 2012-08-11 07:50 am (UTC)(link)
If Jaime wanted to save the lives of his lover and three children, he should've kept it in his pants in the house of their enemies.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-11 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
he should've kept it in his pants in the house of their enemies.

this. seriously, this.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-11 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you.
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[personal profile] visp 2012-08-12 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
1. They weren't enemies yet.

2. Yeah, Jaime isn't always the brightest.
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[personal profile] demishock 2012-08-12 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe not enemies in the sense that they were openly hostile to each other (it's been a while since I read book 1), but Jaime's got the whole kingslayer stigma attached to him; Cersei's cheating on her husband, the king, who is one of Ned's best friends; and it's well-known that Ned Stark's whole thing is Honor, Honor, Honor. Ned's home isn't a safe place to be doing any of that (if there's even such a thing as a safe place for them).

(Anonymous) 2012-08-11 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Ummmm... you are aware from his POV chapter that he wasn't even thinking about his children when he pushed Bran out the window? It was all about his relationship with Cersei. Not the "greater good" but pure selfishness on his part.

He doesn't even view them as his children and it's only until much later that he attempts to see Tommen as anything but a "squirt in Cersei's cunt" (or something along those lines).