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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-08-17 06:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #2054 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2054 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-08-17 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I kind of got the impression when Thor offered him a way out and Loki stabbed him but had tears in his eyes that he wanted to turn over but he was too in over his head.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-08-17 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
By then, yeah I think he thought so too (which isn't an excuse by any means, because being "in over your head" is a bullshit excuse unless you think it'll cause even more deaths — it just makes the scene a lot sadder). But if he hadn't opened the portal and decided to screw over the Chitauri and tell Thor everything on the Helicarrier, he still could've found a way to get the hell out of there without causing the deaths of loads of people, and then worried about hiding from the chitauri because, you know, innocent people first, guy who almost tried to conquer them all second. So I can't really bring myself to sympathize with his regret.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-18 09:05 am (UTC)(link)
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But if he hadn't opened the portal and decided to screw over the Chitauri and tell Thor everything on the Helicarrier, he still could've found a way to get the hell out of there without causing the deaths of loads of people, and then worried about hiding from the chitauri because, you know, innocent people first, guy who almost tried to conquer them all second.

The whole thing could have been avoided if Loki had turned himself in the moment he arrived to Earth. Sure, it would have taken some time to convince S.H.I.E.L.D. that there is a whole alien army after his ass who also want to conquer the whole galaxy, but if he had given them clues about what they should be looking for, either S.H.I.E.L.D., Heimdall, or Odin's magic (because it is apparent that he is capable of doing magic) could have detected that yes, there is something wrong out there. Or, alternatively, since Guardians of the Galaxy is canon in the Marvel movie universe, that means that there are many intelligent and friendly alien species out there whom Odin could have asked to help him confirm whether what Loki said was true or not.

The Avengers would have been assembled, S.H.I.E.L.D. and Asgard would have provided protection to Loki, and his family's anger would have vanished the moment they realized that he basically saved Midgard and possibly Asgard while endangering his own life in the process. Of course it is possible that he still would have had to face punishment for what he did in Thor (for high treason - he could have been pardoned by Odin, attempted murder against the crown prince - Thor would surely forgive him for that, so he could have been pardoned by Odin for this as well, attempted genocide against a rival nation - they could have found some legal loophole concerning warfare to pardon him for this as well, the deaths of two Asgardian guards), but it is also possible that his penalty would have been eased for what he did against the chitauri.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-08-18 02:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, and I'm sure SHIELD would've been willing to throw up their hands and let Thor take care of him at pretty much any point in the movie before the wormhole opened, rather than risk having him on their planet any longer. Really, I think that's what makes Loki so tragic to me — the only thing he has to do to stop his evil shit is tell Thor he's tired and doesn't want to fight him any more, and Thor would immediately take him back and do anything to protect him. But he doesn't, because he's too resentful and jealous and stubborn.