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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-08-22 06:30 pm

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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2012-08-22 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
It sort of is.

It takes place in the same continuity as the original, but there's a decades-long gap, a completely new writing and film team, and a very new, modern-day view on the character.

For many people it was their first experience with Doctor Who. I'd consider that a reboot.
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[personal profile] st_jane_ambulance 2012-08-22 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Perhaps it's just that I've always seen the term associated with continuity, in a "please re-install universe and reboot" kind of way.

Although now I've got an amusing image of rebooting one's audience.

[personal profile] unicornherds 2012-08-22 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
See, I'd consider a reboot something that goes back to the very beginning and retells the story. Like the Star Trek movie.

This is just..New Who, not really Reboot Who.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-08-23 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Well, some people don't equate continuity reboot with show reboot. It wasn't a continuity reboot, but it was a reboot of the show because it was like "okay, lets do everything with a new audience and new actors and new writers and production and aesthetics and stylistic choices and reintroduce everyone again with new stories, but let's keep the established continuity there in the background and in the characters' memories."

[personal profile] unicornherds 2012-08-23 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
But wasn't that pretty much standard with Who? Each new Doctor equals new writing and new actors and actresses and new style choices.

I guess it comes down to your definition of reboot. If you mean reboot as in bringing new life to the show, or reboot as in system shut down refresh and start again.
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[personal profile] fenm 2012-08-23 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
But that's happened at least three or four times in DW. It's just part of how the show works. The 60, 70's, and 80's versions of the same show are fairly different from each other.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-08-23 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Sure, but modern viewers probably don't see it that way. They see "their" reboot as the main one, and Old Who as a monolith of five trillion old episodes with outdated hairstyles and rubber monsters and shit (probably in large part because the internet wasn't around for any of those series).
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[personal profile] fenm 2012-08-23 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
Sure, but modern viewers probably don't see it that way.

So? Whether sometimes is a reboot or not is based on whether a certain audience sees it that way or not?
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-08-23 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
Um....yes? People see and refer to New Who as a reboot, so, to them, is is a reboot. It's definitely not a continuity reboot of course since the show keeps it's old continuity, but if the general audience sees it as a reboot of the show, that's all that really matters. Unless they wipe out continuity, what other possible reason is there for it to matter? If the creators start going "UGH! It's not a reboot! Geez people!" people are still going to refer to it as a reboot. It's a reboot due to popular consensus.

Now "reboot" doesn't look like a word anymore...
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[personal profile] fenm 2012-08-23 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
It's definitely not a continuity reboot of course since the show keeps it's old continuity,

Yes, that's what I'm referring to. The show has made references to older version, and shares the same continuity with it.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-08-23 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, well. Some people still make a distinction between a show reboot and a continuity reboot. You can reboot a show without scrapping its continuity. (IMO "reboot" is a misleading term for that, but whatever.)