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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-08-22 06:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #2059 ]


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world_eater: (Default)

[personal profile] world_eater 2012-08-22 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know this show, but I know a lot of kids' stories rely on it and it pisses me off. If your main character can only be awesome because the adults are dumbed down (I didn't read the books, but Lemony Snicket's anyone?) it makes the story weak for me.
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[personal profile] caecilia 2012-08-22 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Lemony Snicket actually subverts the trope. It's been a while since I've read the series so I can't think of specific examples, but there are a lot of things that happen in the background that we don't really find out about until the end. So while some of the adults seem useless they are actually critical to the plot. It's also a very self-aware series that likes to play with different literary techniques.

I think in general it exists because the writers want the story to be about the kids having their own adventures, not about the parents. Like anything else, it can be done well, and it can be done poorly...and it can get old after a while.
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[personal profile] world_eater 2012-08-23 06:55 am (UTC)(link)
The movie doesn't and that's what I was talking about.

I don't think it can be done well, but to each their own. I've read a lot of good children's stories where it doesn't happen and so I'm highly biased.
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[personal profile] caecilia 2012-08-23 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
After I said that I thought about it and I guess I've never actually seen it done well...just several times where I apparently overlooked it for the rest of the story. :\

[personal profile] juliamon 2012-08-22 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
This is exactly why I couldn't get through more than a book and a half of Lemony Snicket. Every adult I've ever known has at least played along with a kid's seemingly-outrageous fantasy at first, even if it's just to attempt to prove it's their imagination. Having adult characters completely dismiss anything a child character says without a second thought just feels so violently unrealistic that it takes me completely out of the story (or show, as the case would be for OP's example, though I haven't seen it myself yet).

(For anyone else who just couldn't deal with Lemony Snicket, the Mysterious Benedict Society series does a good job of subverting the "adults don't believe kids" trope.)

(Anonymous) 2012-08-23 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Similar rec: The Witches, Roald Dahl.