[ SECRET POST #2059 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2059 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[dethtoll]

i dunno, riddler can be pretty damn menacing. there's an arc called dark knight, dark city that ran in batman #452-454 that basically turned riddler from campy clue-obsessed villain into a sadistic psychopath -- up to and including forcing bats to perform an emergency tracheotomy on a baby. combine that with his genuinely insufferable-genius "if you weren't so dumb you wouldn't be dead" attitude they usually write him with these days and you have the perfect nolanverse villain.

[oddityangel]

I don't want to give away the ending of that story, but I never liked it because, iirc, it wasn't like the Riddler could claim full responsibility for his actions/motives, could he? He wasn't a chess-master, and that undermines it a little. Plus I've never liked the Riddler as an outright murderous lunatic (Batman has enough of those in his life), I prefer him as a sort of gentleman thief who is more interested in the game than the prize...and who may just kill you in a death trap if you're not playing right (or if you just really piss him off). Obviously other people expect other things from the character, and considering how across the board he's been over the years almost any interpretation is valid.

I think the Riddler would work in the Nolanverse, in fact he may have been JUST the thing to show audiences WHY Batman is called 'the world's greatest detective.'

[dethtoll]

all very valid points, but i was just trying to point out that the riddler isn't just some campy B-list villain.

[oddityangel]

Fair enough. He certainly CAN be a campy b list villain if that's what you're going for (Eddie is versatile) but you're absolutely right, writing him off as JUST a B-list villain is doing him (and a bunch of writers) a disservice.

[(Anonymous)]

I prefer him as a sort of gentleman thief who is more interested in the game than the prize...and who may just kill you in a death trap if you're not playing right (or if you just really piss him off).

Yes! The BTAS version of the Riddler comes to mind (well, the first version of him there).

I think the Riddler would work in the Nolanverse, in fact he may have been JUST the thing to show audiences WHY Batman is called 'the world's greatest detective.'

Exactly! He's all about the chase! Batman would have actually had a puzzle to figure out, instead of another terrorist plot to foil.

*sigh* There's always the reboot...

[oddityangel]

BTAS Riddler is one of my favourites. Dini generally did a good job with him in the comics too, though I wish he (the Riddler) had been a little more...competent at times.

Fingers crossed for some interesting puzzles and riddles in the reboot (Are they already planning one? Yikes!.