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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-08-24 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #2061 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2061 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[Xena: Warrior Princess]


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02.
[tales of symphonia]


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03.
[The Girl From Tomorrow]


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04.
[Spyro the Dragon]


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05.
[Lamento -Beyond the Void-]


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06.
[Aidan Gillen]


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07.
[Skyrim]


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08.
[Touhou Project]


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09.
[Total Recall]


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10.
[Castle]



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11.
[Spyro the Dragon]


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12. [SPOILERS for the Dark Knight Rises]



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13. [SPOILERS for Digimon 02]



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14. [SPOILERS for the Borgias]



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15. [SPOILERS for Tales of Symphonia]



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16. [SPOILERS for asoiaf/game of thrones]



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17. [SPOILERS for A Dance With Dragons]



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18. [WARNING for eating disorders]



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19. [WARNING for pedophilia, rape, child abuse]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #294.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

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(Anonymous) 2012-08-24 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
my goodness you do take everything at face value don't you

your comments above make more sense now
ext_81845: amuro ray from mobile suit gundam, in his underwear, from the doan's island episode (WTF?!)

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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-08-24 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
If you mean I'm logical and don't like the idea of turning something into a crime before anybody has even been harmed or any actual action has been taken, then yes

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(Anonymous) 2012-08-24 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Except people have been harmed by it. You just don't give a shit about that part because it's not conducive to "winning" arguments on F!S.
ext_81845: the character ray person from generation kill, squinting and smiling/smirking (yeah... no.)

(frozen comment) Re: tw for child abuse

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-08-24 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you conceding that I did win this argument? Because... I did.

And what are you advocating, exactly? What you're suggesting creates a dangerous precedent. There are now certain things that people aren't and are allowed to write about, to draw, to create. I could make the argument that we don't need depictions of rape in comics or porn or in novels or whatever, because people who have been raped might read that and be triggered by it. Maybe someone might even send it to a rape victim with the express purpose of causing them emotional harm.

Basically, I'm against censorship in any form. Actual child pornography is easy to be opposed to because it's impossible to create WITHOUT harming a child. By your own admission, shota/loli only has the POTENTIAL to be used in a harmful way against children.

(frozen comment) Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-24 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I didn't. Because you didn't. Notice the quotes around "winning." It's called sarcasm. But this is you, and being a pedantic shithead is kind of your M.O. by now, so I shouldn't be surprised.

The part you're ignoring is that this crap HAS BEEN USED TO HURT PEOPLE. How the fuck do you breathe with your head stuck that far up your ass?
ext_81845: mashmyre cello facepalming, from the anime zz gundam (facepalm)

(frozen comment) Re: tw for child abuse

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-08-24 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
You sound so annoying Jesus fuck I feel sorry for anyone who has to live with you

Just give me some statistics proving that shota/loli is used MAINLY to groom children, you sound like an urban legend here

Oh wait, you won't, because ad hominem is fun and easy

(frozen comment) Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-25 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
When your argument is "I'm right because I said so" and too drunk to say much else, there's no point in wasting effort on anything but ad hominem since you won't listen to reason anyway. By the way, you're late with the "I'm older than all of you so that means I win" argument, and that's a little disappointing.
ext_81845: the character ray person from generation kill, squinting and smiling/smirking (yeah... no.)

(frozen comment) Re: tw for child abuse

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-08-25 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I'm right because there's no way to establish that shota/loli is used primarily to hurt children. Still waiting for you to prove that, since you're the one (or was it another anon, who knows) who made that argument. See, that's how debate works, you can't just make a baseless statement and keep making it without any facts or anything to back it up. The burden is on you to back up your statement with facts, and you haven't (as others in this thread have pointed out)

I'm not the only person in this thread who disagrees with you, btw, I'm just the only person with the username "childings" which apparently gets your panties in a wad

(frozen comment) Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-25 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
It's still "I'm right because I said so," no matter what fancy language you try to couch it in. And it's still a hilarious bullshit argument.

"Other people disagree with you!" isn't going top make it any less bullshit, either.

(frozen comment) Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-25 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
right back at you

oh, so if only, say, 5% of it is used to groom, 25% to fap, and the others read it "for the plot" it's suddenly okay?

really?

(frozen comment) Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-25 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
lol, this. Good lord what a cuntbag.
ext_81845: amuro ray from mobile suit gundam, in his underwear, from the doan's island episode (WTF?!)

(frozen comment) Re: tw for child abuse

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-08-25 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly I don't see what's really wrong with someone fapping to it, it's not hurting anyone else, they aren't actually hurting a real child, why is this a problem? If anything it's good because it prevents a pedophile from acting out these desires on a real child. I mean, pedophiles can't be cured, this has been proven, they have high rates of recidivism. It's not like people CHOOSE to be pedophiles

http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletters/Harvard_Mental_Health_Letter/2010/July/pessimism-about-pedophilia
"Like other sexual orientations, pedophilia is unlikely to change. The goal of treatment, therefore, is to prevent someone from acting on pedophile urges — either by decreasing sexual arousal around children or increasing the ability to manage that arousal."

(frozen comment) Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-24 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, no.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope#As_a_fallacy

What were you saying about logic?
ext_81845: amuro ray from mobile suit gundam, in his underwear, from the doan's island episode (WTF?!)

(frozen comment) Re: tw for child abuse

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-08-24 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
You must not follow many Supreme Court cases

(frozen comment) Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-24 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
You must not, either. At least while sober enough to understand anything.
ext_81845: amuro ray from mobile suit gundam, in his underwear, from the doan's island episode (WTF?!)

(frozen comment) Re: tw for child abuse

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-08-25 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Do you know what the term "establishing a precedent" even means?

People like you are why this community is unbearable while sober

(frozen comment) Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-25 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, I do. You obviously don't.
ext_81845: amuro ray from mobile suit gundam, in his underwear, from the doan's island episode (WTF?!)

(frozen comment) Re: tw for child abuse

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-08-25 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
So uh, what about me being the victim of child abuse here? Are people just going to ignore that one and continue to advocate for thought crime?

(frozen comment) Re: tw for child abuse

(Anonymous) 2012-08-25 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
So am I. Your point?