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⌈ Secret Post #2071 ⌋

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Notes:

Important: I'm really sorry about this, but I accidentally misclicked and deleted the submission post from last week instead of saving it. Managed to save the first page (25) of secrets, but the rest (about 100 or so) are gone.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

What was so bad about the writing in the last episode of Doctor Who? I'm being serious and not questioning your opinion or anything, I'm just really, really inept at picking up on whether writing is generally considered "good" or "bad" and why.

[mekkio]

In general? The plot made no sense, the characters were out of character and Moffat put in another on his cookie cutter "sassy smart, sexy, flirts with the Doctor and saves the day" female characters.

Let's start with the plot. The Daleks said they couldn't blow up the planet because they consider it wrong to kill their own kind. Then two seconds later they said they couldn't do it because of the force field. And they would blow of their kind if it wasn't for the force field. What a minute?

Then the Doctor calls them out that in reality, the reason why they haven't gone down to the planet is because they are afraid of the insane Daleks. The Daleks all but admitted this. But then later on Amy says she is afraid when she is turning into a Dalek and the Doctor remarks, "Good. Fear is not a Dalek trait." Again, huh?

And out of all the aliens that Daleks can get to help out, they get their worst enemy. Why? Wouldn't it have been easy to grab a random alien, strap a bomb to him and beam him down? I am sure the bomb exploding within the force field would have taken that down. Never mind the fact of why didn't they just teleport a bomb down?

Then the Daleks says something to the affect of the reason why they could never seem to kill the Doctor is because they think their hate and his hate for each other is beautiful. What? BS. They have tried time and time again to kill him.

That right there is a Dalek being sentimental and when have Daleks ever been sentimental?

So, they send their worst enemy of all time down to the planet with an escape route back. Why? Why would they allow the teleporter to work in reverse?

Then there is Rory and Amy. They have been together through thick and thin. Rory has stood by Amy's side for two thousand years. Amy has fought aliens and nearly died for Rory. In fact, another version of her did. They have been through hell and back. And yet I am to believe that they two never had a heart to heart about having kids? Any frank discussion about the fact that Amy couldn't have children or how Rory feels about that? No, Amy just kicks Rory out instead. And she thinks that is what is best for Rory. Again, BS. From what we've seen of Rory, what has given Amy any idea that Rory would simply go, "Oh, well. Let me find a new wife and have a boat load of kids." Again, the man stayed by her side for two thousand years.

Either Amy is stupid and doesn't know her husband at all or that is just bad writing.

And then there is Oswin who is afraid to go outside because of what is out there. But has no problem of saving the Doctor by hacking into the Daleks to shut them down. Why couldn't she shut down everything and venture out? Mind you, how do you shut a Dalek down? They aren't machines. They are organic beings in personal tanks. Moffat's solution for this? A hive mind. Though that goes against the fact that the Dalek's have a Prime Minister. (How does that work? Dalek elections.) And why would the Dalek's have a Prime Minister when in the past we've seen them all following the orders of the "Dalek God?"

Clearly, Moffat is making this up as he goes along without any regard of canon.

Anyway, you get the idea. This episode gave me a headache with its bad writing.

[hornpile]

The Amy/Rory plot was what annoyed me the most about that episode. It just doesn't make sense for them to break up after everything they've been through. And the reasoning for it... couldn't they just have talked about it? And surely there are other options, like adoption? It just seemed like an excuse to inject a bit of drama in to the episode, but it didn't really work. (Their reconciliation was really sweet though.)

You brought up a lot of good points that I didn't notice. I'm like the anon you're replying to, I'm not great at noticing why writing is bad right off the bat. But wow, there is a lot of contradiction in this episode. Not to mention the doctor blowing up all the daleks when he should be against that. (Though maybe not, he's got a pretty messy track record there.)

[mekkio]

Yes, and usually I am very forgiving with Doctor Who. I know you can't really apply logic to it and I am good that. It was and is never a well written science-fiction show. Mind you, it's a fun, entertaining show. A blast to watch. But will it inspire future scientists like Star Trek has to create tech based on the show or be used as an inspiration for associations like NASA as in naming a shuttle after Enterprise in order to "bravely go where no man has gone before?" Nope. (Frankly, no one is trying to build a time-space machine based on the TARDIS or trying to figure out if the laws of space-time behave like that on Doctor Who because, again, there's no real science that you could use from the show to inspire you.)

But, odd enough, Doctor Who does inspires the art culture more than anything else. Fanartists, fanfic writers even fanvideo creators. That's where Doctor Who shines as a beacon of creativeness. And, fine, that's great. As a fanartists, I am right drawing along besides everyone else.

But, back to this episode, again, usually I can forgive the complete lack of logic that Doctor Who gives you simply because in the end, Doctor Who is meant to be fun and not serious and the actors are always top notch. (Matt Smith, in my humble opinion, is an absolutely brilliant actor. And I'll watch him in anything.) But not out of character characters and plot holes that scream of, "Frik, I've got five minutes to finish this script." I hate lazy writing. And this episode is trampled to death with it.