[ SECRET POST #2071 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2071 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Important: I'm really sorry about this, but I accidentally misclicked and deleted the submission post from last week instead of saving it. Managed to save the first page (25) of secrets, but the rest (about 100 or so) are gone.

If you submitted something last week (Aug 26-Sept 1), please resubmit it here.

The submissions post for next week is below as usual.

Secrets Left to Post: ?? pages, ??? secrets from Secret Submission Post #296.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[insanenoodlyguy]

Unclear. The phoenix was apparently pissed about the no more mutants thing. And it was weakened considerably by something Iron man built before it actually got there.

Though it didn't attempt to destroy earth once it got there, no. Just two other planets full of life on the way (the phoenix force is kinda a bastard)

I like to call this event "everybody overreacts" From the Phoenix on down.

[intrigueing]

This event? "Everybody overreacts" is like the anthem of the Marvel universe.

Also, you rock at summaries, jsyk. And if I assume you're right, I wasn't misinformed, so suck it, anon in the thread above.

[insanenoodlyguy]

It is, but this one extra so.

I disagree with some of your points, but it doesn't sound as if you got the facts wrong, no. Anon can indeed suck it on that ponit.

[intrigueing]

Oh don't mind me, I'm a very bitter and reactionary person, especially when it comes to painful ex-fandoms.

[insanenoodlyguy]

If I may ask, what soured you?

[intrigueing]

It was pretty much a build up of everything to a critical mass of fuck-this-shit. See, I never followed current comics month-to-month for extended periods of time. I read mostly just Spider-Man as a kid. So when I started reading comics really hardcore in earnest, I jumped into all Marvel comics, from all periods, all the time, picking and choosing whatever sounded interesting and branching out. So I was reading Dark Age and Silver Age and very recent stuff at the same time. And basically, I realized that no matter how hard I looked, pretty much every single thing about Marvel comics from recent years -- I'll tentatively date it to somewhere around Avengers Disassembled, but it was a lot more gradual than a precise turning point -- made me want to punch all the characters in the face and I could not muster up the willpower to give a flying fuck about what happened to any of them, and that was such a massive, jarring difference from how glorious and how emotionally resonant the comics I was reading from earlier times were that it was pretty much impossible for me to reconcile the whole timeline together without feeling disgusted.

I'll give you an example: if you've read Avengers Forever, remember when the Avengers teams from all the alternate timelines in which the Avengers turned bad and got corrupted and ceased to be heroes came out into that limbo-place to attack the 616 Avengers? And then all the Avengers teams from all the alternate timelines where the Avengers remained good and heroic came out to join the 616 Avengers and fought off the bad Avengers? And it was just EPIC? Well, the 616 Marvel Universe is one of those universes in which the Avengers went bad, except it's the entire Marvel universe, not just the Avengers. The idea of painting the current 616 superheroes as heroic individuals or people you should ever like or admire in the slightest is preposterous. To me at least. Maybe other people don't see it that way, maybe they are still interested in the characters and stories, but I just can't care about them anymore. At all.

[(Anonymous)]

Regardless of what happened to the other planets, I don't think Earth was ever in danger; the Phoenix was just heading towards Hope. If the Avengers had left it alone it would have bonded with her, but because of them it bonded with the five X-Men, who unlike Hope had never prepared for being its host, instead.

Cap, goaded on by Wolverine who was pissed at Cyclops, also handled things horribly in the beginning when he demanded that Cyclops just give them Hope. While the X-Men have made mistakes in this event, I place more of the blame on the Avengers because they started the whole mess.

[insanenoodlyguy]

But they aren't entirely comprised of filthy mutants! Just some of the good ones!

[(Anonymous)]

The fact that the Avengers thought they had the right to just come to Utopia and say "give us Hope" still pisses me off. Because the Avengers have so much experience dealing with the Phoenix force.

[(Anonymous)]

Uhhh, I don't disagree that Cap's initial actions were pretty stupid and arrogant (ngl, I'm hoping all the recent dickery is Marvel setting him up for a fall) but for all of X-Men's "experience dealing with the Phoenix force", what they were planning to do, was attempting to push an unsure teenage girl into assuming the power and hoping The Phoenix would "fix" the Decimation and the mutant population, fuck everyone else. Scott didn't care about whether Hope was ready, whether she agreed or about her.

Doesn't sound like much of a good idea to me, given that every single one of X-Men's previous encounter with the Phoenix has ended less than favorably, whether the Force was actively pissed or not. And this time, it actually was.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, they sure were lucky it wasn't heading towards a fourth planet further away. Short story.