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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-03 03:25 pm

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Re: Stupid questions from non-natives (Part Two)

[personal profile] omorka 2012-09-03 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Anyone in the Southern Hemisphere who celebrates either Christmas or Yule: Does the constant association of Christmas/Yule with snow in US/Euro/Japanese media weird you out at all, or is it just something you learn to ignore?
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Re: Stupid questions from non-natives (Part Two)

[personal profile] helishdreams 2012-09-03 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
For me, (Australian) it's just something I've learnt to ignore. My mum's family are originally English though, so we end up having this odd mix of a full roast dinner along with the heat of summer. As well as that, the feelings I have for my Christmases goes into a separate box than the associated feelings of a 'traditional' christmas. It almost feels like two separate holidays, which is something I can't quite figure out in my own brain. But because it's something I've grown up with, it feels completely normal to have CHristmas carols referencing snow and winter while it's 30*C outside.

Re: Stupid questions from non-natives (Part Two)

[personal profile] drakontion 2012-09-03 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
(from Australia) We learn to ignore it.

It is annoying though, constantly being bombarded with images of snow and ice and people running around in woolly clothes and the desire to have a roast turkey or something like that for Christmas lunch when it's 45 degrees Celcius outside and the sun's beating down on you like the hammer of the gods and the humidity is so thick you can swim through it and the air conditioner's broken again.

...but yeah, we ignore it mostly :P
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Re: Stupid questions from non-natives (Part Two)

[personal profile] tabaqui 2012-09-04 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
But...if you're in Australia, why would you see all these snowy images? Doesn't Australian tv/ads/what have you show typical Australian Xmas scenes?

Re: Stupid questions from non-natives (Part Two)

(Anonymous) 2012-09-04 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
The media isn't too imaginative with the christmas movies and the TV adds like to show us a "traditional" christmas to get us in the mood - complete with cold wet snow and people bundles up
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Re: Stupid questions from non-natives (Part Two)

[personal profile] tabaqui 2012-09-04 10:38 am (UTC)(link)
That seems amazingly strange. Huh.

Re: Stupid questions from non-natives (Part Two)

[personal profile] drakontion 2012-09-04 11:41 am (UTC)(link)
What the below anon said. Traditional Christmases involve snow, holly, mistletoe, roaring fires, eggnog, and Santa in velvet and fur. Not heat stroke, flies, mozzies, snakes, and a bunch of people sitting around red in the face and struggling to muster up the enthusiasm to open presents.

...lol, it's not really that bad, but you get the idea ;)

On the other hand, it's made snow something I've put on my "must experience before I die" list, as it always looks so fabulous on TV and in movies...
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Re: Stupid questions from non-natives (Part Two)

[personal profile] tabaqui 2012-09-04 11:56 am (UTC)(link)
I just find that so incredibly strange.

Snow *is* fabulous, just so long as you have good boots. Keep the feet warm and dry, and everything else is cake.

*loves snow more than almost anything else*

Re: Stupid questions from non-natives (Part Two)

(Anonymous) 2012-09-03 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm actually from a part of the US where it doesn't snow ever so... I think in it kind of like, "meh". It snows for the rest of you. Great?

I guess in a way it has made snow kind of mystical to me though. Snow is a part of Christmas in the way Santa Claus is. It's the whimsical thing that's really isn't going to happen but adds to the overall atmosphere.
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Re: Stupid questions from non-natives (Part Two)

[personal profile] gobbledigook 2012-09-04 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
I notice people around me tend to think about a christmas with snow to be a novel experience, since it's american and stuff. As for Me, I never seen snow in my entire life, but I'm more interested in the fact that americans have cold weather during christmas. I hate that it's hot almost all year where I live =|
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Re: Stupid questions from non-natives (Part Two)

[personal profile] ryttu3k 2012-09-04 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I mostly ignore it, and I honestly do associate Christmas with hot weather and summer BEFORE the snow imagery. If I'm asked to name Christmas-related images, then yeah, I start going on about Santa's red suit and reindeers and all those traditional winter images, but the word 'Christmas' brings up, like, images of the big lunch on the back deck or something.

At the same time, it doesn't phase me to see snow-related imagery in foreign media. It's ike there's these two contrasting images in my head, and both are equally as 'Christmas' as the other.

Re: Stupid questions from non-natives (Part Two)

(Anonymous) 2012-09-04 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
We used to live in Australia and according to my dad (I was too young to notice) people there would use that fake frost stuff you spray around the edges of windows even though it was swelteringly hot outside. He thought that was hilarious.

I figured Australians sort of accepted the snow imagery and associated it with Christmas but in a different way than people who actually experience snow, kind of like how I grew up associating summer with going to the beach, even though I lived in a land-locked state and there was no beach.

Re: Stupid questions from non-natives (Part Two)

(Anonymous) 2012-09-04 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
I live in a part of the US where we may have sun and 70+ degree Fahrenheit weather on Christmas day and certainly never snow, and I always feel bad buying an evergreen that was probably grown a few hundred miles away.

Re: Stupid questions from non-natives (Part Two)

(Anonymous) 2012-09-04 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
Totally learn to ignore. Although I do prefer the celebration songs that talk about the hot sun instead of snow snow snow

Re: Stupid questions from non-natives (Part Two)

(Anonymous) 2012-09-04 09:24 am (UTC)(link)
I'd say, it's not so much that it's ignored, but more that it's just part of the general Christmas atmosphere (as an Australian). It's like, what I associate with Christmas is that very feeling of incongruity - singing Winter Wonderland and sending people cards emblazoned with snowmen when you're sweating in shorts and a singlet, decorating a brightly green pine tree with glitzy tinsel and baubles all colours of the rainbow when the grass is yellowing outside and most of the trees around are grey-green gums, then sitting down at for Christmas lunch on a 40 degree day and tucking into hot Christmas ham and stuffed chicken and roast potatoes (with cold dishes as well, of course).

It all goes hand in hand with the fact that celebrating Christmas, a holy, religious day, is so important to me even though I'm pretty strongly agnostic at best. It's just what Christmas is, to me :)

Re: Stupid questions from non-natives (Part Two)

(Anonymous) 2012-09-04 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm used to it. What it's annoying is that all the media imagery is the same as that in the winter places, so you get Santa with his overstuffed coat images everywhere and it's kind of silly when it's super hot outside xD

Also, the traditional Christmas food is very heavy, and caloric since it's thought to be eaten during winter and it's a bit weird. However, many families kind of adapt the recipes to be more suitable for the warm days.

I'd love to spend a Christmas in a snowy place, tho. I hope one day I can travel and do so :)