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⌈ Secret Post #2071 ⌋

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Comments

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Not everyone is.

Oh, I definitely get that. That was actually my point but I failed spectacularly at making it. :p

To put it another way, my issue with 'sexual orientation' and 'romantic orientation' is that I think most people tend to think sex and romance always go together 100% of the time, and they don't. I think no matter which term you use, most people are going to assume that it also includes the other type of attraction while it doesn't always. I mean, if someone were to mention their 'sexual orientation' I think the majority of people would assume that included romantic attraction as well, and the same goes for 'romantic orientation' and people assuming it definitely included sexual attraction. I think 'sexual and/or romantic orientation' or like you said somewhere above, 'sexual-romantic orientation' would make more sense, since by using both words it points out that they're two different things. And I think there should be a word that could mean either both sexual and romantic or just one or just the other so it includes everybody--if you say 'sexual orientation' it leaves out asexuals who have a romantic orientation but if you say 'romantic orientation' it leaves out aromantic people who have a sexual orientation. By having a term that includes both it doesn't exclude anyone, plus I think by pointing out that they're two different words, it would theoretically make people less likely to assume they were the same thing.

I don't know, it makes sense in my head!

Re: AYRT

[diet_poison]

Yes, that makes sense. The only issue I have with a term like "sexuo-romantic attraction/orientation" is that some people who only experience one of those types of attractions might feel uncomfortable using a term that implies both - unless, of course, there was a strong connotation that it was inclusive but didn't HAVE to include both and one aspect of one's s-o orientation (lol making that up) is whether they are specific to one or have both (or neither). Spelling them out separately like that might help enforce that they are separate things, but it might also reinforce the idea that they are the same since you are now including them in one word, and I guess that was my instinct here which is why I'm leaning towards it being better to keep them separate terms.

But we cannot predict exactly what would happen. And I see where you are coming from - sorry it took me so long to understand it completely! It seems we're on the same page and want to accomplish the same things, just have different ideas about how to go about it, and that's ok. That's why this kind of discourse is so important!

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

I guess 'sexual and/or romantic' would make it clear that it could be either or both with the 'and/or' but that's pretty long and not catchy, lol. But yeah, I think keeping them separate would work best if more people realized the distinction (and it's entirely possible that I'm underestimating people's knowledge; I'm just basing it of off my own personal experience) but you're right, there's no guarantee they'd understand any better if it was one word instead. I really don't know what the answer is, other than hoping that as time goes on people will become more informed on the subject and who knows, language is always evolving, so maybe a word will emerge from somewhere that takes care of this issue.

"That's why this kind of discourse is so important!"

I agree! Important, and also interesting, at least to me...sexuality and related topics are something I find pretty much endlessly fascinating.