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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-07 07:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #2075 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2075 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Twilight]


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[Christian Bale, Scott Disik]


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10. [SPOILERS for Misfits]



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11. [SPOILERS for A Song of Ice and Fire]



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12. [SPOILERS for the Vampire Diaries]



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13. [WARNING for rape]



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[Truffaldino from Bergamo (1976)]


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15. [WARNING for pedophilia, rape]

[DC Comics]


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16. [WARNING for depression]

[Zac Little/AngryFilmsProduction (YouTube)]


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[personal profile] al28894 2012-09-08 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, most girls do have a sense of reason. I was just saying "How many..." could be influenced. Just because some people are making wrong decisions doesn't mean everyone from the same group is (are? English isn't my language).

(Anonymous) 2012-09-08 02:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry for being snarky. I just get tired of this "OMG! It's ~dangerous~ for girls" pearl clutching I see from some Twilight haters. And some of them do think that girls are too stupid to tell fiction from reality and should be "protected" and come very close to advocating censorship.

How many girls could be influenced by Twilight? How many girls could get influenced by "Phantom of the Opera" (the musical)? Or any number of other media that romanticize problematic relationships. How about real life?

I've never read Twilight so I don't know how bad it is or how much is exaggerated. It just confuses me why this get singled out when there are so many other things, things that are far less subtle, that girls and young women are exposed to every day that can be more dangerous than some stupid fantasy vampire novel.
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[personal profile] al28894 2012-09-08 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, to be perfectly honest, I don't know. There simply isn't a survey big survey big enough to cover every single woman in the entire planet as to question the 'media influence' part (not to mention that people sometimes lie...). Still, the thought that somewhere out there, a woman is thinking that these kinds of relationships are romantic are pretty scary and sad...

As to why people are jumping over Twilight? I guess it wasn't so much that the media changed, it was the people. In My Personal Opinion, as fandom moved from the 1990's to the 2000's, more and more young people are now aware of the misogyny and 'just-plain-wrongness' of shows, books, movies, etc. through the internet. So now that they know what's wrong or right, they will try to badmouth or over-exaggerate any kind of media that has a sliver of 'wrongness' even if it was intentional and relevant to the plot.

Along came Twilight, with it's plot-holes and suggestions of abusive relationships. While it's true that the book has major flaws, I don't think it's the "be all and end all" of bad literature. That position goes to bad fanfic writers.

Just my opinion though.
Edited (Stupid HTML.) 2012-09-08 16:40 (UTC)