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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-08 03:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2076 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2076 ⌋

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Re: <i>White</i> guy?

(Anonymous) 2012-09-08 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Looking at the picture, they all look to be very close shades of yellow. If you recognize Ben Stiller, Vince Vaughn, and Jonah Hill and know they're all pretty white regardless of the fact that they look yellow, you're not necessarily going to recognize Richard Ayoade (which, high billing or not, he's not a Hollywood actor) in that lovely shade as being of a different ethnicity.

Re: <i>White</i> guy?

(Anonymous) 2012-09-08 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
So, you'd just make a statement about the ethnicities of people from that photo, if you felt it was hard to tell, and just assume people are white? I mean, I have to pay attention to notice race and ethnicity when there aren't additional cues, but I would look someone up before I made a statement about the whiteness of people.

It's kind of encumbent on you to look shit up before you start stirring.

Having said that, everyone who wasn't aware of Richard Ayoade is in for a treat. Look up some of the things he's been in. Try Garth Marenghi's Darkplace and The IT Crowd, and The Mighty Boosh (try a third season episode). How lovely for you that you have these things to watch for the first time. He is generally in the sort of thing that makes fandom-like jokes, as well as some very odd stuff.

Re: <i>White</i> guy?

(Anonymous) 2012-09-09 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
What? If I saw three people I knew to be white and who typically star in movies with a majority white cast suddenly appearing yellow and the unknown person were also yellow, I might perceive that person as also white, yes. This has little to do with erasure and a lot to do with the unnatural skin color of everyone in that picture. Clearly, the person who said it had no idea what the movie was and, as such, didn't necessarily have the means to research Ayoade, who is, btw, Norwegian/Nigerian. I don't think he's going to freak the fuck out if someone calls him white.

If you want to go SJW on my ass, have at it but take five seconds to notice that it's not an unreasonable assumption.

Re: <i>White</i> guy?

(Anonymous) 2012-09-09 09:54 am (UTC)(link)
Excuse me? The only one going SJW was the person who glanced at the picture and made a dismissive statement about them all being nerdy straight white guys. If I were going to make such a statement about people I didn't know, then I would fucking look them up to avoid making an ass of myself. There was no reason to make that comment without the information except to get reinforcing strokes of "yes, and you're such a good person for being disgusted by it". If anyone actually cared about such issues, they'd have looked more closely, or looked him up, or already have known who he fucking is because (even though he isn't white) he is not actually terribly obscure. You don't need to have watched someone's work to recognise them, at that level, because they're around in macros and gifs and memes and clips and avatars.

I do find it interesting that when someone is unashamedly a nerd taking part in nerd culture, they are read as white.

Re: <i>White</i> guy?

(Anonymous) 2012-09-10 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
DA

How are you supposed to look up people you don't know? I don't know about you, but I am not gifted with the ability to look up people whose names I don't even know!

The only person in that pic I recognize is Ben Stiller and I don't even like 85% of the films he does, he's just everywhere, so it's hard for me to not know who he is.

I seriously feel like you're making this a bigger issue than it actually is.