[ SECRET POST #2076 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2076 ⌋

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Comments

[nachtmusik]

No queer person has an obligation to walk around eggs over a bisexual person who refuses to understand such a simple concept that is not to make light of something they don't personally experience while deciding that they have it harder.

>they don't personally experience

Are you fucking stupid or something? Bisexuals still have to deal with homophobia. When I'm with women I get funny looks. I get called a dyke. I get catcalls and men asking if they can watch us fuck. I just also get called a slut, a liar, an attention whore, and a lesbian who won't come all the way out of the closet by biphobic people when they find out that I'm into men and women. Oh I also get called transphobic and accused of trans* erasure for choosing the label bi instead of pan, even though that's a bunch of bullshit. So how about you shut the fuck up and stop making light of things you don't personally experience?

Oh also I really like how you're implying that bisexuals aren't queer.

[gobbledigook]

Oh my god. You're just beyond reasoning with. I was obviously not saying that, and again, you're twisting what I said in order to get angry for no reason. Queer experiences aren't all the same, and the experience of someone who is bisexual is not the same as someone who is a lesbian - to point that out isn't saying that bisexuals don't also experience hardships. I've said so numerous times on this convo.

It is terrible that you go through all of that. I won't ask for you to prove it though. I am, however done with trying to reason with you if you're just going to insult me or explode into a rage over things I didn't actually say.

[nachtmusik]

Okay, no, you're just absolutely fucking ridiculous. You directly say something and then claim "I didn't say that!" Yes you fucking did. How about you just own up to the fact that your entire goddamn argument is that biphobia isn't a real problem? Which, by the way, is a disgusting stance to have.

Or better yet, how about you just fuck off? Since you refuse to listen to a word I say, claim you didn't say things you said in your last post, and are surprised when your own biphobic stances piss a bisexual person off. Yeah, I've had enough of you.

[gobbledigook]

I said I didn't, and I didn't. If you actually bothered to look at all of the posts I made in this convo I said numerous times that bisexuals also face homophobia, but you didn't, because it's easier for you to wave your arms around screaming biphobia and hoping it sticks.

Me, fuck off? how about you don't try to enter arguments if all you're gonna do is flail around trying to make the other side into some sort of SJW(while trying your best to go into SJW rage yourself during the whole discussion), ignore points once you can't argue against them anymore or decide that someone must be saying what you want them to, despite they explaining themselves over and over that not the case?

It's hilarious that you're saying I'm the one who's refusing to listen to anything you say, since you're not saying anything- you're just trying to pick a fight and work out some wank boner. I've had enough with you the second you thought you had a coherent argument.

[nachtmusik]

This is what the argument has boiled down to so far:

my side: it is bad and harmful to assume that a bisexual who complains about being treated like shit by other members of the LGBT community is trying to claim to be "more oppressed" and/or that his or her claims aren't valid because they can "pass as straight people" (which by the way that sort of logic is generally offensive as fuck to bisexuals because it assumes we're in heterosexual relationships and no one wants to fucking pretend to be something we aren't)

your side: weh weh some bisexuals pretend to be more oppressed so we must side eye every bisexual who claims to have gotten shit from lesbians and gays!

Yeah no you're kind of disgusting here. I'm done with you.

[gobbledigook]

I like that you put your argument first, as if I was the one that came into this discussion later. That was you, by the way.

A bisexual complaining about being treated like shit by other members of the LGT community is completely entitled to do so. If they choose to poorly word their defense by saying they have it worse than every one else in the queer community then people should call them out on it, because much as they have been oppressed they also have privilege, and if anything YOUR argument was that bisexuals should be babied by the rest of the community, who should just let them go around saying they're more oppressed than everybody else, not to mention saying this doesn't happen often, even though there's people on this very thread claiming to witness it, and a person saying it, then saying it doesn't happen enough to matter:

"Which really isn't a common thing. It probably does happen, but not nearly as much as. You know. Bisexuals actually being discriminated against by both heterosexuals and gays and lesbians."

(I don't know if the "weh weh" is just childishness on your part or your writing ~style so I choose not to add them here)

As if that makes it somehow a gay person now being obligated to tolerate someone who is bisexual saying something offensive. When someone criticizes that attitude they're not lumping every bisexual person together, as I said, using the way men tend to take offense when women criticize "nice guys", even though they're not talking about every man in the world. Of course, you just saw the word man and tried to go into an "I'm offended" angle.

As for being done with me, you don't really seem to be since you keep filling my inbox with this convo that you started answering me on. I don't believe that I'm wrong, or that you did a good job of demonstrating I am wrong, and I can defend my viewpoint anytime.

[nachtmusik]

Holy shit, you are bitching about what order I summarized our arguments in? Grow the fuck up.

[gobbledigook]

You're right, the order isn't that important. I pointed it out because I just found it funny that you came into this thread to answer me(not the other way around) then told me to fuck off once you couldn't come up with an argument.

By the way I see that you're trying to steer the discussion into some sort of lack of maturity on my part so you don't have to answer any of the arguments you lack an answer to. If someone needs to grow up here it really isn't me.