[ SECRET POST #2078 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2078 ⌋

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Comments

[miarrow]

He pretty much harasses and stalks her even before Ned dies (drunkenly pushing her into the wall and getting into her personal space and telling her his story) and then when he's ready to "save her" or whatever (and that's a very horrifying scene, what was he doing in her room, seriously) he makes her sing for him. I am interested in their dynamic and you know, ship whatever you'd like, but dismissing the fact that he's not a very good man and treats her in uncomfortable ways isn't the way to do it.

[(Anonymous)]

I understand where you're coming from, but I hardly think the term "torture" applies in this case. Agressive behaviour and harassment, but def not torture.
I also think that while Sandor's behaviour IS extremely aggressive, both the reader and sansa come to learn, after some time, a little more about his motivations. Sansa has shown time and time again a confidence in the fact that she understands Sandor due to knowing about his past, which relates to the fact that the primary feeling she has for him is pity, and not hate. Hate is something she feels for Cersei and Joffrey, as she states clearly. But she extremely sensitive and capable of seeing a bit beyond Sandor's immediate actions.
It really doesn't matter if you can't forgive him for his unexcusable acts of violence towards Sansa (we know he surely can't forgive himself and thinks he deserves to die for them, as he tells Arya). But if we are talking about Sansa's HAPPINESS, not yours, we have to admit the possibility that someone who has come to represent certainty and truth in a world otherwise inhabited by people she knows she can't trust can maybe bring her happines.

[althea]

Well said. ASOIAF isn't really about healthy relationships as we conceive of them today. (The "happiest" couple I can think of was Ned and Catelyn, and their marriage certainly wasn't ideal.) In the context of the ASOIAF-verse, it does seem like SanSan would ultimately make one another happy. Which is why I'm not going to bank on it happening. I do harbor a hope, based on the way her arc is going, that Sansa will survive the series. She may even be the "last Stark standing" in Westeros, given where the surviving Starks are now. But we know that anything is possible with GRRM.

[oparu]

The scene with him in her room really terrifies me.