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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-11 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #2079 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2079 ⌋

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Re: ...I'm wading in.

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-09-12 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure what you mean by "justified". I also am not entirely certain what scenario you are proposing. Both twins are going to die but there is a chance one could survive if one is terminated first? Or do you mean only one will survive and the medical procedure would shift the odds in a different twin's favor? Or did you mean that the dominant twin wants a higher quality of life at the expense of the other twin?

Whatever you did mean I am absolutely not qualified to discuss any of that but still stand by my belief that no person is obligated to sustain another person's life against their wishes. Fetus or adult.

Re: ...I'm wading in.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-12 09:55 am (UTC)(link)
Ok, let's say two adult conjoined twins. Both currently healthy, fully cognizant, etc (not that this should really matter, but then abortion is legal up to full term here if you have reason to believe the baby is disabled). With both conjoined, they will both live full adult lives. If seperated, twin A will die and twin B will be able to live as a basically normal person. Twin B decides that they want to live without a twin, to have a normal life. Twin A is horrified, and begs not to be killed.

If the right to bodily integrity is more important than the right to life, will you anaesthetise the crying, begging twin A in order to separate them from twin B and kill them? What about twin A's bodily integrity?

What about the foetus's bodily integrity?

This isn't a "gotcha": I'm interested in knowing if this is really what you believe, really why you believe abortion is okay, or whether it's your explanation but it only applies when you don't really believe one of the parties is a human person.

Re: ...I'm wading in.

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-09-12 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
What part of "I do not believe any person has the right to life at the expense of another person's bodily autonomy," wasn't clear? I'm not saying your scenario is black and white easy to think about but it doesn't change the fact that I don't think anyone is responsible to sustain another person's life against their will regardless of circumstances.

You want to talk hypotheticals? What if someone required a surgery to be conjoined to another person for whatever reason and would die without it, do you believe the healthy person should be forced to undergo that life-changing procedure against their will?