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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-11 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #2079 ]


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Re: ...I'm wading in.

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-09-12 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
I think the more women have other options, the better. Are you the same anon who said they support anti-abortion legislature?

I just want to make it clear there is no "might" about it. Denying people access to safe, legal abortions absolutely does and will result in horrible situations that should have been prevented. Wanted children come into the world at a far greater advantage than unwanted children. And there is data to back that up and not just an anecdote from my personal life for that.

The anecdata I have is not something I want to talk about and I think I want to bow out of this little back and forth because I don't have the luxury of applying wishful thinking to my real life decisions and beliefs and I'm actually getting a little upset.

eta: the current system that is so horrendously failing children is doing so without the added pressure of the thousands of children who would ostensibly be born if abortion was made illegal and difficult to obtain. Leaving aside the women and children who would be killed or maimed in that event.
Edited 2012-09-12 05:53 (UTC)

Re: ...I'm wading in.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-12 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
just because someone will do something doesn't make it OK. people will steal, kill, and rape, no matter what the law is.

if the current system is failing then we need to fix the system. i don't get why neither side seems to try to focus their energy there instead.

Re: ...I'm wading in.

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-09-12 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you the same anon?

I have no idea what point you are trying to make by comparing abortion to stealing, killing, and raping. I stated that anti-abortion laws only hurt and damage women and children. Giving women access to safe abortions saves lives period. Unless you are suggesting dying from a botched abortion is a reasonable punishment for women who break anti-abortion laws and completely ignoring the fact that when an abortion is botched the child can survive maimed, paralyzed or it can take days for the fetus to die?

If there weren't people trying to pass anti-abortion legislation there wouldn't be people trying to prevent it from being passed. So if you want the system fixed FIX IT instead of focusing your energy on legislation that screws over people in a terrible situation who are resorting to what they feel is the best option for them.

And look, even if the system was perfect not every woman can carry a pregnancy to term safely and with little impact to her daily life. eta: but to suggest abortion should be banned in favor of adoption right now sounds like an awful, awful idea even when you ignore women's rights to bodily autonomy.

I don't like the fact that abortions exist. But I have no idea how anyone thinks banning abortions are in any way a good idea or a solution to the problem. All it does is take an awful situation and make it worse.
Edited 2012-09-12 20:44 (UTC)