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⌈ Secret Post #2079 ⌋

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[forgottenjester]

Oooohhh. My bad. I vomited all the information on you because of a misinterpretation. I'm sorry.

I think facial expression differences could be considered an accent. I know that many facial cues that used to exist have been dropped in ASL. Now it's more about tone. However, there are a few facial cues left. For example, pulling your eyebrows together or raising them depending on if you're asking a yes/no question or any other type of question.

I can understand SEE most of the time. Unless they sign really fast. I saw this speed signer once who knew SEE. It was amazing and terrifying all at once. I did not know hands could move that fast.

If you're interested in taking up ASL I would have to recommend getting into their poetry. It's really beautiful.

Really? Well, I saw the -ING thing on a documentary so it's quite possible it's no longer in use or it's a regional thing. The butterfly and gravy example came from my ASL teacher who was heavily in the deaf community, went to conferences, did a bunch of research, you get the picture. She knew basic SEE. She was old. (I'm not sure how much. Her face looked 30 but she had white hair.) So it might be outdated.

Oh wow, I've never encountered that. The deaf community in my area is huge and very open to inviting hearing people who want to learn. They just think that hearing people shouldn't be allowed to make rules over deaf people or "for their own good" which I've never heard anyone argue against.

Oh yeah, I remember the Chinese and Japanese switch. My teachers taught me the signs so they could say, "Never use them! They are racist! So use these instead." And then they taught me the new signs. I haven't heard of the others. I hope I'm not using the racist versions. I did hear about the n-word thing but thought it was a very small group of individuals.

I remember having to teach a friend the proper etiquette for using LGBT signs since she's in that community. It was a bit nerve-wracking for her since she has a poor memory and the differences between the nice way to say lesbian and the offensive way are very similar.

[anonymouslyyours]

I'm very intrigued by your mention of ASL poetry. I'll have to look into that. I remember my mother used to watch videos of an ASL comedian who was so expressive with his hands and face that I would get completely sucked into the story and lose my breath laughing over the oldest, unfunniest jokes. I wish I could remember his name.

I had completely forgotten about the old sign for lesbian! I only saw that version once when I was very young and it must have completely flew over my head and I never thought about it until you brought it up and just... wow.

As far as I know the offensive signs are Jew (miming a hooked nose) & Native American (patting hand over open mouth). I'm kind of blanking on others (I know there are a few that don't concern nationalities?) as I don't use them and only had them explained once when I was very young. I don't think most of them are in common usage anymore except for older people and some deafies who are trying to "reclaim their signs".

[forgottenjester]

Well, if you want any recommendations for poets, let me know. I don't know any ASL comedians though, except the CODA brothers. They are pretty funny.

Aha, in SEE are you actually allowed to sign gay? Because where I'm from the only polite way to say it is to fingerspell it.

I think I might know the offensive one for Jew. I should go look up the non-offensive version. The only offensive one I know that doesn't directly concern ethnicity would be the sign for Africa. There were a LOT of them and quite a few were very offensive. So they changed the sign to look like the continent. Now people complain the sign looks like a vagina. *headdesk* Yeah, I wouldn't say they're too common.

[anonymouslyyours]

I was taught the hand over head (lead by middle finger) for gay officially but I've only ever seen/used the fingerspelling version.

In SEE around here most people just made the sign for A and say the word Africa to be lip-read or fingerspell it to avoid the drama.

I'm definitely open to recommendations for poets if you have favorites. Thank you!

[forgottenjester]

Interesting. The one I know that I'm not allowed to use is making the "q" hand and having your fingertips touch your chin.

Wow! That's so different!

Um, I really liked:
Clayton Valli
Debbie Rennie
Ella Mae Lentz
Dorothy Miles

That's all I can think of off the top of my head. I hope you like them.