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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-11 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #2079 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2079 ⌋

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veronica_rich: (Default)

Re: anon for obvious reasons

[personal profile] veronica_rich 2012-09-12 12:19 pm (UTC)(link)
"I think not addressing these cases is wrong because it suggests that the only reason abortion is even on the ballot is not for women like this, but for pregnant teenagers and rape victims. According to every news outlet everywhere it doesn't matter if your dreams of being,say, a fighter pilot are dashed, because the public doesn't find that story as interesting or sympathetic for whatever reason."

This happens because of lack of basic biological and psychological education and logic. It's easy to gross out people and prejudice them against killing a picture you're waving of a seven- or eight-month-old fetus, IF they don't understand abortions of ones that far along are almost totally because of (a) a bad problem with the fetus itself or (b) danger to the woman's life. And many people don't. They also don't realize many already-mothers, including married ones, get abortions because they can't afford another mouth; and that there ARE married people who don't want children.

It's often hard to control an emotional debate if you don't evoke extreme emotion. This is why pro-choicers so often look like unfeeling ice cubes, because they're deliberately cast as mustache-twirling villains who are out to slaughter helpless gurgling, chubby-cheeked "D'AWWWW" babies ... instead of advocating safe access to abortion for women who don't want a pregnancy to get anywhere near that advanced a stage.
biohazardgirl: (Default)

Re: anon for obvious reasons

[personal profile] biohazardgirl 2012-09-12 12:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it was really late when I posted last night, so I didn't really touch too much on income and the fact that a lot of women who get abortions already have children, but it's absolutely true. Whether you're middle class or fairly poor, having another mouth to feed means a drastic change in the amount of income you're getting in. Another child may even be the difference between having a home and a comfortable life and being homeless. Many people suggest adoption for cases like this, but I think the fact of the matter is that people who already have children would feel guiltier adopting the baby away than aborting it before it is viable. They already have a child so it feels like unfair abandonment if they give one away, even if they can't afford one.
veronica_rich: (Default)

Re: anon for obvious reasons

[personal profile] veronica_rich 2012-09-12 12:48 pm (UTC)(link)
The adoption argument for laws against abortion access is meant to sound like a compromise, but it usually just pisses me off. It seems to assume a woman who doesn't want a child is nevertheless OK with going through a body-changing pregnancy and birth; and then that she's either found someone to adopt the baby and is OK with giving it away, or that she's OK with just sticking it out there in the world somewhere like a chip in a roulette wheel. If a woman doesn't mind 2 out of 3 of these things, then you don't have to pass a law forcing her to not abort - just be the person who agrees to adopt her baby.