[ SECRET POST #2080 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2080 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I think the Sherlock fans see it as a homophobic response to the slashy nature of their show. If there is going to be a romantic dynamic in a Holmes and Watson series, it damn well better be het.

Cause otherwise, IDK, they certainly aren't competing against each other and since both Sherlock actors are "big names" now there probably won't be another season.

[mekkio]

But there is no slash in Moffat's Sherlock. It's all implied and mainly by the fans. And most of those show's implications were stolen from the movie, The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes. (Watson's "Now they are really going to talk?" Ripped from Sherlock's dialog from the same nature in the movie.)

[(Anonymous)]

Except all Sherlock ever does is up the bromance up to eleven and make gay jokes while the only genuine gay character (Irene) feel in love with a member of the opposite gender.

One of these shows is more homophobic than the other. Hint: It's not Elementary.

Though granted, Elementary hasn't started yet. But the Sherlock fans really don't have a leg in that regard.

[(Anonymous)]

It's the one co-created by a gay man?

[(Anonymous)]

ASiB was written by Moffat. And the bromance and slashy subtext scenes aren't progressive, no matter what fans think. If Sherlock and Watson actually entered a relationship, that would be progressive and then the Sherlock stans could go about their show being holier than thy adaption.

And just because Gatiss is a co-creator doesn't mean that Sherlock can't have more homophobic vibes than a show that doesn't have a gay showrunner.

[writerserenyty]

This; the fact that they've flat out admitted that while there's not going to be a homosexual relationship but they're going to tease it for fanservice is not progressive.

[elephantinegrace]

Are you serious? Damn, if I've ever needed a reason not to watch something, that would be it. They want teenage girls to fetishize gay men? And one of them is gay himself and should realize how insulting that is?

I...just...I...wow.

[(Anonymous)]

I have a teen relative who is a Sherlock fan, and I've seen online conversations between her and her friends about how much they love that aspect of it, it really appeals to them that Cumberbatch and Freeman are cool about the slash.

I think in fact Moffat and Gatiss know exactly what they are doing.

da

[(Anonymous)]

The largest part of the fandom started out family-friendly and slash-free, where a lot of us were and are fans of the source material, first and foremost. Just like the creators of the show claim[ed] to be. I don't think anyone imagined in our worst nightmares they would start actually listening to the yapping of the crazy teenagers on the Internet. You can clearly see the progression of them catering more and more to the insane demographic, from Pink all the way through Belgravia, and by the time it hit Baskerville, canon was already defenestrated, and the fans who had never picked up even ONE of the books, were in their glory over "their" show that showed them everything THEY wanted to see.

Now it looks like even that choice has come back to bite them! Now the Internet is yapping about the leads being racist and classist and this-ist and that-ist etc-ist and sending MF's wife death threats. Looks like pandering to that demographic was NOT their wisest decision because even that has turned on them now.

TL;DR If they stuck closer to the books instead of moving further away from them they might get the rest of us sane people to start watching their show again. Maybe? Maybe that was not the problem at all IDK.

I really liked Pink though. It is a shame the other episodes were not as close to the canon.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

The largest part of the fandom started out family-friendly and slash-free, where a lot of us were and are fans of the source material, first and foremost. Just like the creators of the show claim[ed] to be. I don't think anyone imagined in our worst nightmares they would start actually listening to the yapping of the crazy teenagers on the Internet. You can clearly see the progression of them catering more and more to the insane demographic, from Pink all the way through Belgravia, and by the time it hit Baskerville, canon was already defenestrated, and the fans who had never picked up even ONE of the books, were in their glory over "their" show that showed them everything THEY wanted to see.

So Sherlock has devolved into a more literary version of Supernatural? Thank God I never got involved in its fandom, then.

[(Anonymous)]

"I think the Sherlock fans see it as a homophobic response to the slashy nature of their show."

That's stupid as hell if that's the way they feel.

[cloud_riven]

This.

A lot of them do feel that way, so I can't even pretend it's a straw man against the crazier BBC stans. Why are there so many dumb people on the internet that actually think subtext is better than text.

[(Anonymous)]

They are contracted for a third season of Sherlock.

[iggy]

Yeah because US media isn't absolutely full of bromance and queerbaiting. BBC Sherlock and Watson's dynamic would be right at home on US tv. That's a ridiculous accusation.