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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-12 07:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #2080 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2080 ⌋

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Re: TL;DR POST ABOUT SOMETHING REALLY UNIMPORTANT

[personal profile] fenm 2012-09-14 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
I think the only thing I can say on this subject is that the quotation of "lesbian" is a bit indicative of the feeling on lesbians who find themselves in sexual situations with men, or in a romantic situation with a man.

The quotes are because I'm talking about fictional lesbians, who are only really with women to give men spank material. Real life is much more complicated.

The power is in John not addressing it, I think.

I'm talking about the fact that the show refuses to address is, actually.

And as far as the character development, he does not correct the inn-keeper in Baskerville.

Yes, he does, actually. And he starts to a second time later on.

I believe it takes on a life of its own due to the actor's interpretation

And the fact that the actor has to "interpret" it is the problem. I'm sick of this "open to interpretation", subtext, bromance-y bullshit. Why is it that, in 20-fucking-12, we can't just have them be a openly, obvious, TEXTUAL goddamn gay couple already?!

Re: TL;DR POST ABOUT SOMETHING REALLY UNIMPORTANT

(Anonymous) 2012-09-14 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
I guess I just see a little more to Irene's sexuality than spank material, considering I do think she's a rather complicated character. Again, I think this is more in what we don't see/what is implied rather than what we explicitly see, because we see the results of her actions more than her actions in the episode.

The show still has episodes yet, I do hope they will address this further though, considering it was a really nice little spark. I hope it becomes more of conversation, but like you, I don't have any high hopes. This stuff is what keeps it from falling into the procedural show formula, in my opinion.

He starts to correct the inn-keeper but has a moment where you can just see him go, 'Screw it', and leave it at that. It's a bit of a change from his arm-waving, "NOT GAY!", response.

Amen. I mean, there are some representations of GLBTQ people as main characters on shows, but I don't think they're necessarily awesome or enough. The characters are never really fleshed out to the extent of straight characters and their sexuality is a HUGE DEAL to their character usually. I don't know that I necessarily want to see Sherlock and John 'together' in a traditional sense, considering I don't think either of them are that good at being normal in this regard. But I wouldn't mind if, hey, the attraction became text or apparent. Or there was some real tension without it being deflated by humor. That would be very nice and I wouldn't mind one character expressing what they feel. I'm just a person who is not a romantic/relationship oriented person and I guess I have some desires to see my sexuality/romantic inclinations depicted on a show as well, haha! As any person, does, really. It's just kind of like, "OH COME ONNNN" as Sherlock is so... possibly many things, regarding his sexuality/romantic identification. I want to see more thiiiiings.