[ SECRET POST #2082 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2082 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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05. [SPOILERS for Journey Into Mystery/Everything Burns]



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06. [SPOILERS for Avengers]



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07. [SPOILERS for Sweeney Todd]



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09. [WARNING for depression/suicide]

[Wilby Wonderful (2004)]


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10. [WARNING for abuse]

[True Blood]


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12. [WARNING for suicide/self-harm]

[Alex Gaskarth/All Time Low]


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Comments

[galerian-ash.livejournal.com]

Well then. I guess I should hope that you can perfectly pronounce smörgåsbord, otherwise I ought to be offended that you "bastardize my words".

...Except I won't be. So no, I don't think I have a problem. In fact, it's more of a problem to change your accent and pronounciation mid-sentence! That is, of course, just my opinion -- but please don't tell me that I only do it to fit in, or because I have no respect for other people's languages. Because that's just not true.

[(Anonymous)]

I was speaking in the general sense.

I didn't say offended, I said it's more pretentious for anyone to insist that *their* personal accent is correct when applied to every word in every language out there. People should at least admit they're using a bastardized version. Which all of us are.

English is my first language but I don't understand this notion of "it's okay because we say it this way here." If you happened to be Japanese-American and everyone pronounced your name wrong, should you not be annoyed? Since it's the American accent? It's perfectly okay, and to change their accent midsentence would be a problem?

[(Anonymous)]

Japanese-American here.

People mispronounced my name so much and I got so many 'hurr but that's what it SOUNDS LIKE in ENGLISH!' comments that I actually go by a Westernized version of my name now. Easier than correcting people who don't want to be corrected all the time. :|

[(Anonymous)]

That's exactly what I mean. galerian_ash keeps purposely(?) missing the whole point which is that people insist they're in the right when you correct them, because ~it's just their accent, okay? Deal with it!~

[(Anonymous)]

Ooooh! Question, okay, so I have a lot of Japanese friends, and I'm one of those that will sometimes screw up with names. How annoyed would you be if I were to try pronouncing your name correctly, but kept screwing up? I keep pronouncing my friend's name as "My-you" but I try to say it "Me-oo" like it's supposed to sound, and half of the times I screw up. I'm just curious, if a person is honestly trying to make an effort to pronounce your name, but they occasionally mess up sometimes, how annoyed would you be?

I tried to think about how annoyed I would be, but I have a fairly easy name to pronounce so I don't have an experience to reflect upon. Any insight would be appreciated =3

[(Anonymous)]

I'd be okay with that as long as they were trying to say it right and weren't like "well this is the way -I- say it and this is the way it's read in -English- so deal with it."

[galerian-ash.livejournal.com]

I never said that I thought it was correct -- I just find it easier (both to speak and listen to) when people stick to the tone and accent of one language.

I don't think you should be annoyed, no. I've had people pronounce my name wrong on many occassions... At first I tried to correct them, but it was obvious that they had a hard time doing so as some of the sounds just didn't mesh with their native language. So why should it matter? It's not like they're trying to be rude to me by saying it in a different way than I'm used to, so why should I be a dick in return by insisting that they stumble over my name every time they call for me?

Anyway, I gotta go offline now. Just letting you know in case you think I'm trying to ignore you or something. (That said, I don't particularly want to continue this argument. It's not gonna lead anywhere, anyway.)

[(Anonymous)]

I think you're largely mistaking deliberate mispronunciation borne out of laziness and mispronunciation as a result of a sound not existing in a given language.

For example, my name has a rhotic r. Many Spanish, German, and French speakers are unable to pronounce this sound because it is extremely uncommon or doesn't exist in their languages. It's not that they're trying to be dicks: it's that they either don't recognize the r in my name as a sound or are unable to reproduce it.

[kryss_labryn]

This thread deeply reminds me of this skit from SNL back in the late 80s.

http://www.zimbio.com/watch/f_q1DAi7iEE/Enchilada/Saturday+Night+Live

Sorry; it doesn't seem to be on YouTube and I can't find a version that will play outside of the States. :( But I share it under the assumption that at least some of the people here can probably see it.

(If you can't, basically Jimmy Smits shows up as the new guy at a law firm; everyone else in the room is Caucasian. They all discuss where to go for lunch but Jimmy is side-eyeing his new coworkers' insistence on pronouncing any non-English word with the correct accent, for example "enchilada" (hence the name of the skit).)