[ SECRET POST #2082 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2082 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Fate/Zero]


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05. [SPOILERS for Journey Into Mystery/Everything Burns]



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06. [SPOILERS for Avengers]



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07. [SPOILERS for Sweeney Todd]



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09. [WARNING for depression/suicide]

[Wilby Wonderful (2004)]


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10. [WARNING for abuse]

[True Blood]


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11. [WARNING for rape]



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12. [WARNING for suicide/self-harm]

[Alex Gaskarth/All Time Low]


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13. [WARNING for abuse]



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14. [WARNING for abuse/bullying]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #297.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ],.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Be angry and remorseful in a way half as resonant as they were when Coulson died, maybe? I mean, when they (the writers who control everything about the story) had a character acknowledge how many people were killed, they then had another guy make a joke about it ("He's adopted.") Like, why bring it up if you're going to later establish that all those innocents weren't enough to get them to stop fighting amongst themselves?

[seiberwing]

I think up until that point they understood that Loki needed to be stopped, they just didn't realize that they couldn't do it alone. Aside Bruce (who didn't want to be there at all), the Avengers didn't want each other around, they figured they could handle the job better without some egotistical billionaire or alien god getting in their way.

The Helicarrier thing was a slap in the face to make them get their shit together and realize that they were more vulnerable than they thought they were.

[truxillogical]

Like, why bring it up if you're going to later establish that all those innocents weren't enough to get them to stop fighting amongst themselves?

Oh, so that is exactly what your issue with it is.

Well.

Because people are human beings, and even heroes (especially Marvel heroes) aren't always perfectly good and noble types who instinctively Do The Right Thing. Tony is and has always been a huge, massive jerk with an ego the size of a planet, who is so easily distracted by his own brilliance that, well...yeah, I'm not sure what you were expecting from him. Tony wants to be a good guy, and yeah, he'll go to bat for the innocents in danger on his own, in his own super-flashy way, but for him to actually put aside his own ego, he absolutely needs a personal reason.

[intrigueing]

Like, why bring it up if you're going to later establish that all those innocents weren't enough to get them to stop fighting amongst themselves?

They weren't good enough because they had nothing to do with the Avengers. Coulson, on the other hand, believed in the Avengers as a team. The innocent people were just innocent people who Loki had proven himself a monster by killing. They were good enough to make the Avengers try to track down Loki of course, but seriously, if they were level-headed enough to say "we shouldn't fight because innocent people died!" the moment they started fighting, they wouldn't've been even fighting in the first place. I'm sure that if the Helicarrier wasn't attacked, they would've yelled for a while and then decided that maybe they should all shut up and work together, but that's not what happened -- Loki was waiting for the Avengers to fall to fighting among themselves just long enough to ambush them.

Which leads me to my next point: the innocents weren't enough to make them stop fighting because after their death, Loki was locked up and there wasn't that strong a reason to not fight. No one was dying, all danger was theoretical. After Coulson's death, the Helicarrier was damaged, Bruce had Hulked out and both he and Thor were god-knows-where, and Loki had escaped. Huge, HUGE difference in scenarios.