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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-14 06:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2082 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2082 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Fate/Zero]


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05. [SPOILERS for Journey Into Mystery/Everything Burns]



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06. [SPOILERS for Avengers]



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07. [SPOILERS for Sweeney Todd]



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09. [WARNING for depression/suicide]

[Wilby Wonderful (2004)]


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10. [WARNING for abuse]

[True Blood]


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12. [WARNING for suicide/self-harm]

[Alex Gaskarth/All Time Low]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #297.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ],.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-15 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
I can see this logic, but I feel this was something the writers could have done better because I know what emotional effect they were going for -- Loki is bad because he kills innocent people; it is sad when Coulson dies because he was a cool guy who was humble and sacrificed himself; the superheroes are good because they're not evil. But then they made the death count the setup for a joke and had Coulson go out with an arrogant line predicting that the Avengers needed something to avenge... so then is he meant to be coming off as presumptuous (unlikely, unless "The Avengers" is short for "The Avengers of Things That Are Partially Our Fault"), or is he establishing that the people before him weren't worth avenging? I wouldn't have wanted the Avengers to be holding hands and singing kumbayah five minutes into the movie, but it also wasn't the only conceivable way to get the plot to come together just because it's the one the writers ended up going with.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-09-15 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I don't see it as a direct dichotomy of "Coulson matters, other 80 people don't". I saw it as Coulson's death making the Avengers realize how serious the situation was and kind of bringing it home. Like, the people weren't just random faceless numbers, they were all real people and the Avengers were letting them all down the way they had let Coulson down by not having their shit together.

And...I dunno, Coulson's line isn't necessarily that arrogant to me. Could very well be that he realized that oh, maybe now the importance of this will penetrate their thick skulls after they find out I kicked it. But there are different ways to interpret it, so it's reasonable for it to rub you the wrong way.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-15 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
Could be. That's a good way of looking at it, actually.

Well, this is anticlimactic wank. Let's see. Your username is killing me, why is that E there?
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-09-15 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly? It's a misspelling. I was trying to write "intriguing" (I was like, 14 at the time, don't judge me) because it was Data's catchphrase on Star Trek, but spelled it wrong and couldn't be bothered to fix it because I wasn't really active at the time. :D

Anti-climactic wank is good wank though -- it means people came to an understanding instead of blowing up and flouncing or being hijacked by trolls.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-15 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
Ah. I thought it might be an insidious joke. Maybe I should grab could_of and start a prolific commenting spree.

True, true. /tips hat

(Anonymous) 2012-09-15 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
I heard it a pretty self-reflective instead of arrogant line actually, saying that these *heroes* realise how threatening Loki-- or any other threat - is (and corollary, how important that they work as a team), not only on a mass scale, but a personal one as well. Coulson's death shows that no one (not even a competent SHIELD agent whom they personally trust) is safe until they're a team. It's also rather sad, that Coulson saw his death serving a purpose for Avengers and it's perhaps even a thought that comforts him. Devotion to service..seriously.

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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-09-15 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
This is pretty much how I read that line. I can understand why some people can read it differently and why they wouldn't like the line, but it's doesn't really change my understanding of the line.