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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-14 06:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2082 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2082 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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05. [SPOILERS for Journey Into Mystery/Everything Burns]



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06. [SPOILERS for Avengers]



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07. [SPOILERS for Sweeney Todd]



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09. [WARNING for depression/suicide]

[Wilby Wonderful (2004)]


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10. [WARNING for abuse]

[True Blood]


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11. [WARNING for rape]



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12. [WARNING for suicide/self-harm]

[Alex Gaskarth/All Time Low]


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14. [WARNING for abuse/bullying]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #297.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ],.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-15 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
But, Fury was lying to them. Tony's problem was basically with Fury and his lies and with Steve because those two would naturally butt heads. They're so different. He and Thor didn't have an issue after the fight in the woods. He got along great with Bruce. I didn't see Tony as being the only one keeping them from gelling as a team. Fury and SHIELD were the ones lying to all of them.

Tony was being difficult, no question. But, he was not their only problem.
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[personal profile] truxillogical 2012-09-15 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Fury was lying to them. Fury will continue to lie to them. Fury is a lying liar who lies. And his posing, threats, and fibs were all done for the express purpose of saving the world. Sometimes it paid off, sometimes it didn't.

Tony has a specific problem with Fury and his lies. Tony has a general problem with people telling him what to do, which makes him pretty useless in a team setting if he isn't the leader (and even then, might not be so good at it). Tony and Steve more than any of the others kept them from gelling as a team, but it's pretty much mostly on Tony. Steve is a soldier, he knows how to work in a unit, he just expect that unit to be comprised of other soldiers. Thor is a soldier. Nat and Clint are soldiers. Bruce is the guy who will stand back until he absolutely can't. And Tony...Tony will fight, pick, derail, bicker, and basically start problems.

SHIELD's lies weren't really the problem in this movie. The exacerbated other problems, namely, trust, but SHIELD itself isn't the biggest problem in teamwork. Next movie, when more of Fury's lies get exposed there will probably be a huge rift between the Avengers and SHIELD. For now...it's a background problem. And it's still one that the Avengers had to get over. With Coulson's death, as with any big, showy tragedy, the point was made that yes, there's a lot of shady crap going down, no one likes each other much, but hey, there's a distraction, let's put our issues with each other (Avengers and SHIELD) aside and deal with the biggest problem first.

If anything, doesn't that just make Coulson's death more of a turning point in the story? It's not just the Avengers working together, but also putting aside their distrust of SHIELD long enough to take on Loki.

I'm getting this feeling that it still comes to you wanting the good guys to be Very Good, instead of people trying their best who are still kind of crap people.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-15 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
I'm getting this feeling that it still comes to you wanting the good guys to be Very Good, instead of people trying their best who are still kind of crap people.

I don't think anyone wants that.