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No, I don't think I will~!!

Go drink some cactus juice, you might then see all the problems and understand!!

I think this pretty much proves the previous anon's claim, ie, we're the ones with fucked-up ideas about hygiene.

But anon claimed that using only water is sufficient enough to take off the grime from one's body, which, as history has proven, is not true, plus, which I have forgot to add: different cultures different norms and she has just compared to totally different cultures (how people in Africa view hygiene and how people from wealthy countries (though not only wealthy countries view it that way, might I add) view it).

(although I agree that some people's idea about personal hygiene today are quite extreme. When I was a kid, we were literally throwing dry cow shit at each other and weren't any less clean after a bath or any less healthy at the end of the day)

NOPE~ We like it just fine right here, bitching all over the place about this show that had SO MUCH potential, but failed spectacularly.

Also...since you're on F!S, why don't you take your own advice and "get a life?" I hear it's the bee's knees.

the mist

AYRAT

Yeah. For me it was all about potential and JLM, who I really did think gave a notable performance -- one of my favorites from the pilots, which I guess would be the "special" factor for me. But I generally agree with you that it wasn't particularly special overall, other than it didn't suck, which so, so many did.

I could, I'd just rather do this. The amount of butthurt some of you guys are displaying because people criticized a cartoon you like is really entertaining.

Also, considering we're both spending our time arguing anonymously on fandomsecrets, you telling anyone to get a life is sort of hilarious

It would have been amazing if it was impossible to make it to Hitler in five links from there.

I think the argument is that the fandom experience was bad because you vocally hated it? Not that the show itself was.

No no. It's just that you assume there aren't any equivalents to them in the YA section. Your friends like to read about young people (and creatures) having adventures.

Frank Herbert is good but hit all my yuck buttons on a lot of levels, with all his unpleasant characters being unpleasant with each other. That's something I generally don't have to deal with when I read YA. Neuromancer is thought provoking, but again, the world presented is pure yuck. Full of people being abused and having their bodies rented out to torture people. Stephen king has this undercurrent of mind-control and sexual abuse and torture running through a lot of his stories.

For some people all that is just ick. They don't want to have a sudden face full of porn in the middle of their novel. They don't want to be suddenly confronted by a graphic torture scene, or a moral dilemma that keeps them up at night. Or with people who are cleverly cruel to each other, playing power games for the sheer love of having power. Sometimes it's just nice to have a good story, with main characters you can sympathise with facing dangers that are not quite so ugly, full of fun what if's in the background, and with a reasonably sure notion that the author's going to have the good guys win in the end.

I read in both sections, but lately I've been more reading in the YA to kind of counterbalance all the fic I've been reading.

I just see it as visual shorthand that designates the character as the villain, making him appear literally dirty when compared to the squeaky clean heroes. It could also be interpreted as a clue to his mistreatment prior to his appearance on-screen, but we'll have to wait and see if there's any canonical reference to that.

What I find hilarious is the fact that any secrets involving Loki, no matter what they say about the character, inevitably lead to a dogpile. Loki's like the fandom's lightning rod, lmao.

You really should watch A:TLA if you get the chance.

Don't be put off by its seemingly more juvenile exterior. A:TLA > Korra, in characterization, storytelling, world-building... pretty much everything.

You wouldn't know it from the way some people use it online, either as an insult or an ad hominem.

But okay. You have talked intelligently, so you deserve an intelligent answer.

I don't care that somebody likes or dislikes a song. I do however find it somewhat tragic when a person likes something but feels they shouldn't, because of any reason. In this case, because they find the implied gender roles of the song problematic.

If you say "this song is problematic to me, I dont' like it!" that's fine and your reasoning is fine. If you say "This song is catchy! I like it!" that's fine (and so are the ten million small variations on these above). But OP's secret (and others like it I've seen before) tend to go with "I want to like this but oh, I shouldn't!" That's an imposed guilt/shaming I find to be unfortionate.

There are many, many things that are not perfect that we might still derive some pleasure from. Hell, look at almost every really funny joke ever told! most of them deal with something horrible or are about it. I think if we start second guessing ourselves over that, we find ourselves hating things we might otherwise like. Or even hating ourselves because we convince ourselves we are horrible people. I would like to see more people like whatever they want to like and not feel any shame about it. That doesn't mean you can't acknowledge something's problems though (EX: Shakespeare is some great stuff. It's also sexist as fuck half the time. It was wrong then and it's wrong today but we don't have to hate Shakespeare, or only look at some of the bards work and pretend the rest didn't happen, which can be just as fucking problematic in different ways)

Though to speak to the original OP's problem... why dont' they just find an instrumental/karaoke version? They make those for nearly everything. I'm sure a song by a popular artist will have a treatment. Conflict resolved! (Though suggesting that at first wouldn't have started nearly as much wank, and where's the fun in that?)

Edited 2012-09-16 19:09 (UTC)

Now that you dispute my authority on this I assume I actually have some.

Thanks for the entitlement!

I really don't get why she is getting so much hate for dropping out of a university (which if some of the comments on this thread are correct she actually hasn't). College is not for everybody and while I applaud and do think graduating college is an achievement, I know a ton of people who have degrees and don't use them (myself included) so it's not like the be all end all of being a good role model. There are lots of people I know who didn't get degrees and stayed in the work force and now make more money than I do because they have experience, which is a lot more valuable than a degree these days.

The thing I like about Emma Watson is she seems to have her shit together and is dignified. You don't see her in the news popping drunks or getting in trouble with the police or crotch shooting half the nation. That's why she's a good role model versus other people like Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan. She may not have a big flashy degree to hold over everyone but she's an extremely successful woman who has pursued her passion and didn't have to belittle herself to do it.

I WILL TRIGGER YOU AND YOU WILL LOVE IT.

Edited 2012-09-16 19:14 (UTC)

EDIT IS ONLY FOR PERFECTION

OKAY, NO EDITS. HAPPY?

AM WONDERING HOW OFTEN YOU BE MAKING ARGUMENTS LIKE THIS WHEN THINGS AUTHOR SAY ARE THINGS YOU AGREE WITH. BUT THAT NOT POINT.

WHAT IS POINT: AUTHOR NOT ALWAYS CONTRADICTORY. NO, SAYING "THIS IS WHAT HAPPEN" AND THIS CONTRADICTS TEXT MAKE AUTHOR HYPOCRITE.

BUT THIS NOT ALWAYS WHAT AUTHOR SAY. AUTHOR ALSO SAY "THIS WHY CHARACTER DO THIS" OR "THIS WHAT CHARACTER THINKING" OR "THIS WHAT HAPPEN AFTER BOOK!"

THESE ARE NOT TECHNICALLY IN BOOK, NO. BUT THEY WERE SAID. AND WHO IS MORE VALID: YOU WHO DO NOT WRITE BOOK? OR AUTHOR WHO WRITE BOOK AND KNOW THESE THINGS?

DUMBLEDORE GAY. HARRY NOT DIVORCE GINNY AND MARRY LUNA, AUTHOR SAY SO. WHATEVER YOU DIDN'T LIKE ALSO STILL HAPPEN. YOU WISH TO IGNORE THIS FOR OWN FANON? OKAY, IS FINE. BUT CARING MORE ABOUT ROWLING THEN YOU, OR ANY OTHER AUTHOR? THAT MAKE SENSE TO MANY PEOPLE.

IF BOTH YOU AND AUTHOR ARE FANON, THEN AUTHOR FANON IS BETTER FANON.

CRY SOME MOAR.

Oh cool. I'll definitely have to check that out.

OH god... we did where I was.

House on Mango Street: it's made of clown rape and HORRIBLE.

My drunk typos are the best typos.

Oh good. You understand now. I'm glad we got all that sorted out.

But you have to admit, it was pretty funny when you thought magic was for all ages. I bet in a few years you'll look back on this and laugh.

Seconding this because I am so goddamn tired of hearing "Oh, you read? Good for you! I haven't opened a book since high school, tee hee!" every time someone in this town sees me touching a book.

Right?

lol yeah i don't remember that so we might have skipped those bits. either that or i've blocked it out, which is also entire possible. i have enough issues with clowns as it is :c

i don't actually remember much about it, except that i hated it and i think most of it was that i really disliked the author.

Mine was hard.

1. Woody Herman (no clue who he is)
2. Jazz
3. Jazz in Germany
4. Nazi
5. Hitler

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