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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-25 06:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #2093 ]


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yeahscience: ([4-5] contemplatin')

[personal profile] yeahscience 2012-09-26 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I agree with the rest of your comment, but I'm not sure what Walt isn't blamed for on Breaking Bad. I mean, the show even implicitly blames him for the plane crash. Because he is, as keeps getting brought up in these threads, the villain.
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[personal profile] sistermagpie 2012-09-26 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
I think I chose my words badly--I didn't at all mean to imply that Walt gets away with things on BB, at least in terms of the narrative (so far he's gotten away with a lot, obviously!). He's held responsible for his crimes and he's going to pay for them.

Walt's a villain but I think we can (or could for a long time) root for him as the outlaw who was smashing out of his boring suburban life as well. Where as I think Nancy gets a lot less leeway for that fantasy because she's supposed to be holding her family together as the mother. It seems like Walt's heading for a Scarface punishment--blaze of glory violent death or giving the world a finger before the cancer takes him. Nancy's punishment is everyone rejecting her while she cries (having already gone to prison and gotten shot in the head).

So it's not that Walt isn't held responsible or blamed, it's the type and level of blame and punishment on BB compared to Weeds. Walt's story is a tragedy. Nancy's was a comedy.
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[personal profile] yeahscience 2012-09-26 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
I guess I can't quite compare because I've only seen the first two seasons of Weeds, where I thought Nancy was quite sympathetic, but I don't know anything about how that winds up. Still, I really hope Walt gets something like her ending, rather than this "blaze of glory" thing, because ugh.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-26 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
One can only guess but I really don't see Walt going out in a blaze of glory. I think it's far more likely he'll end up self-destructing and bring down his loved ones with him.
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[personal profile] sistermagpie 2012-09-26 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
I would consider that a blaze of glory. I mean, Walt himself says of Scarface "everyone dies in this movie" it's true, and that doesn't keep Scarface from being a classic tragic gangster fantasy. If Walt self-destructs and blows up and other people get destroyed in the explosion, it's still an explosion. For a guy who started out as a beaten-down Chemistry teacher, that seems like where he was going. He's an angry white male and society let him down.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-26 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
I don't consider Walt's actions bringing about the death of his wife and children to be a blaze of glory, but that's just me...
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[personal profile] sistermagpie 2012-09-26 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
I'm fine with not calling in that. The idea was more that blaze than the glory. Destroying your entire family is a grand tragedy. It's violent and tragic and larger than life. "Everyone dies in this movie (chuckle)." Walt's made a lot of choices that kind of tend that way already.