[ SECRET POST #2096 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2096 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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04. http://i.imgur.com/KENos.png
[True Blood; sort of porny, illustrated ... choking and spanking or something?]


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[Koi Kaze; Freefall]


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[Suits]


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[A Song of Ice and Fire]


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11. [SPOILERS for Doctor Who]



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12. [SPOILERS for A Song of Ice and Fire]



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13. [SPOILERS for the Stand]



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14. [SPOILERS for Teen Wolf]



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15. [SPOILERS for Shin Megami Tensei IV]



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16. [WARNING for self-harm]

[bogglelovesyou@tumblr]


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17. [WARNING for attempted suicide and depression]

[The Walking Dead]


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18. [WARNING for suicide]















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Comments

[fscom]

03. http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t481/hellinak/anime.png

[insanenoodlyguy]

If you were there... your life would be about the same. You know that right? No magical fantasy everything is good land.

We live here. You have to remember that. And live.

[(Anonymous)]

Fuck, I refuse to watch slice of life Anime. Mostly because they make me feel like a friendless loser who has no life

[(Anonymous)]

Anime is nothing like real in Japan, you realize that right? It's actually worse there. Especially with the whole "Lol lesbians aren't real, it's just a phase school girls go through". I think there's also a high suicide rate in school because of all the pressure/what I mentioned above.

[(Anonymous)]

Of course Japan isn't a wonderland where everyone is happy. These aren't docu-dramas, they're fiction. They're works of artifice. It's that creation that people respond to, not the idea that life actually is the way it's depicted in these works. Or at least that's what I respond to. Life in Japan, to me, is not really related to the emotions engendered by a slice-of-life high school anime. I don't see any reason why they should (except, I guess, for dumb anime fans who can't distinguish reality and fiction and do make this mistake).

Of course the reality of Japan is not the same as the created work of fiction. That doesn't and shouldn't lessen or change the reaction to that work of fiction. Sure, Japan is shitty, but that doesn't make the anime any worse.

[childings.livejournal.com]

Japan has a high suicide rate in general. Isn't it the highest in the industrialized world? Or something?

[ill_omened]

No.

South Korea (and some petty european countries) blows it out the water, and whilst the suicide rate is high it's such an immensely complicated subject that you boiling it down to stress in the way that anon is is so reductive as to be meaningless.

[childings.livejournal.com]

Well, I agree with you about anon's statement being reductive, I was just trying to clear up some statistics. Thanks for enlightening me?

Every time I think about Japan and suicide I just think of this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aokigahara)

[ariakas]

By "blows it out of the water" she means "eight percent higher" and "aside from South Korea, the highest of any major nation, yes". Always check shit on Wikipedia for yourself, I'd suggest.

Yes, Japan's high suicide rate is extremely concerning to their government, though most social scientists there attribute it to the prolonged recession (i.e. the "lost generation" of the 90s).

[deadtree]

it's apparently 7th, which is still pretty high, but not #1.

[(Anonymous)]

OP here. Just want to clarify I'm not sad because I can't be there, or live that life. A lot of the sadness comes from certain aspects of Japanese society and culture I think, like the general treatment of homosexuality and the stress placed on a person's school life and school work.

[yeahscience]

That's commendably realistic of you, OP. I came into this post ready to be all "oh God" because I do, in fact, work at a Japanese high school and would not wish that life on most children. I see and hear a lot of things that make me pretty angry.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but it's a good sadness, a good emptiness. It's the kind of sadness that I don't mind so much. Enough to seek it out anyway.

I'm with you, but it's not so bad, OP.

[childings.livejournal.com]

I guess I can see that. For me, for the better anime of this genre anyway (Karekano or Kids on the Slope or whatever), I always feel a bit sad watching them because I know my high school experience will never be like that and I can't go back and do it again, either. Of course, people who grew up in Japan probably don't have that experience either, those kinds of friendships, most of it is very idealized... but still

[autumnal]

this exactly. it's mostly about missing my teenage years and the fact that i didn't really have a lot of those ~meaningful coming of age experiences~ at that time, or whatever you want to call them. it's less about anime and japan and more about fiction vs. reality. i get that sense from a lot of western media as well it's just that slice-of-life anime does it so well (/forever bawling over kids on the slope ;__;)

[yeahscience]

I'll tell you, in my experience, a lot of kids out here do develop very tight bonds at school, and they're encouraged to wear their heart on their sleeve about the topic of nakama and friendship and working together and all that so it's one of the few places they're really able to show their feelings fully. So yeah, I do look at the kids sometimes and I'm like, wow, you have really strong feelings about your friend or whatever.

At the same time, I also frequently remember that these kids almost never interact outside of school because they barely have the time. Almost all of the relationship is based on things that happen on school property, during study hours or club hours. So that has a lot of effects, in various ways.

[childings.livejournal.com]

There is definitely a huge cultural difference between Japan and the United States, obviously -- from what I can tell, teenagers in Japan are encouraged to work in groups and join clubs and interact more with each other than American teenagers are. Americans in general value individualism to an extreme degree IMO (compared to most other nations) and the Japanese think more socially? This is just a broad generalization obviously and doesn't apply to every individual, but it's what I've noticed from what I've read, anyway.

It just makes me really sad because at least where I grew up, showing any sorts of emotion around your friends other than amusement or generic happiness was OMG REALLY WEIRD. And I always wanted to have a really tight friendship with somebody (especially a girl, I've never had an actual female friend for longer than a couple of years). I remember this one time in AP art, sitting with my group of friends, and witnessing a guy who I considered a good friend of mine at the time break down and cry because his girlfriend had broken up with him earlier that day. And we were all really taken aback by that, not because we thought it was wrong or anything but because you rarely saw anyone get that emotional at school.

[yeahscience]

It's definitely true that the kids are encouraged to join clubs, work together, etc. etc. much more than in America, where we're more individualistic about achievement. And yeah, kids are much more willing to cry in front of each other here, show emotions, things like that.

However, keep in mind that there are drawbacks to this, sometimes extreme ones. Because of the group culture, people are encouraged to not stray too far from the standards of the group. If someone is too different, they'll have a very hard time and feel a lot of pressure to fall in line, or at least keep their issues a secret. Being gay/bi, being bullied, being depressed, etc., these are all things that essentially get ignored a lot of the time. Or hell, just being different at all, if it's in a way that people don't know how to deal with. I'm not saying that's not also true in the States, but we do have more opportunities, I think, nowadays, for people who are different to go seeking other people who are different. Japan is still more rigid on this matter and kids are highly encouraged societally to just shut up and fit in.

[childings.livejournal.com]

Yeah, any extreme is ... not good. Young people should be encouraged to be themselves, but at the same time, I don't like how nobody seems to care about each other in American high schools (at least the ones I went to, subbed at, etc.)

[deadtree]

Some get a little sad reading fantasy novels because they'll never actually have magical powers, some get sad watching travelogues because they never get to travel, etc. It's all in the same vein. There's nothing wrong with that feeling, but don't let it weigh on you too much. You have a life that is yours alone, so make of it what you can.

[fickletastictot]

Haha, yeah I get sad sometimes when I watch travel shows because I don't have the money to travel. It also pumps me up at the same time because it is a goal in life, and travel shows remind me to keep saving and dreaming so that one day I'll be able to do it too.

Anywho, my high school experience was a mixed bag. There were some good times and some awful times with my friends. (Especially this big fallout between us, but that's for another day.) High school-centered anime does make me feel this longing to go back when everything was normal, but I had some really good experience from my college days too when I was able to come out of my shell a bit more.