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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-30 03:32 pm

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(Anonymous) 2012-10-02 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
That's a stupid policy. It doesn't excuse using company time that you're being paid for to not do any work. And if you have no other work to do and the supervisor won't give you any? Ask to leave early. Any boss who is worth their title won't see the point in paying you to not do anything productive.

This very rarely happens, I might add. There is always going to be extra work to do. Always. Even if it's just a head start on tomorrow's stuff, or double-checking the work that was already done to catch any mistakes.

You know why people around you don't do their jobs, and never seem to get in trouble for it? Because you enable them. You clean up their messes and cover for them and then whine and cry about it.

LOL, no. I clean up after them because if I don't, I'm the one who gets reprimanded and possibly terminated. Because the people who do this are the boss's buddies, so they're not going to get blamed for anything. It's called office politics. But I suspect from the vitriol that you are one of these lazy, shiftless wastes of payroll who are mad that they aren't being paid to spend half their day on Facebook/Twitter/Fandom Secrets. So, you know, here's hoping you get caught and fired soon.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-02 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
A) I'm late to this thread, but it is FASCINATING, so I am chiming in.

B) I'm at work right now. I often do non-work things at work. Granted, I don't have time to listen to 1D all day all that much anymore because I am that boss you're talking about who tells everyone else what to do when they're done with their tasks. I don't have someone to go to to give me something to do, and I am never finished with my work, ever. But I would go insane if I didn't do something that wasn't constant work all day long -- my job can be very high-stress and often requires working overnight with international teams. I exceed the 40 hour workweek most weeks. Sometimes I will do hardly any work one day in the office because I can, and I deserve it, and I dare you or anyone to tell me I don't.

C) When I was wasn't in management, I definitely fucked around all day online some days. I got all my work done and then some, I never got caught, I did better at my job than most of my peers, and I still got promoted to management. Either my job requires different things than yours (which you say can't be possible!) or, sorry, you're just not very good at your job. You say that the people who screw around all day are your boss's friends -- that means your boss and his/her friends are bad for your company. It's your responsibility to elevate it above your boss when you see things like that going on. Go to his/her boss. Go to HR. Maybe even talk to him/her directly. The anon who said you're an enabler was 100% correct. If I knew one of my staff was a bitter, ineffectual whiner like you who didn't give a shit about the efficiency or productivity of the department as a whole, we would be having one-on-ones every single week to try and coach it out of her, and if I couldn't, then she'd be gone.

D) You talk about going home early and not taking the company dime for work not done. You clearly must work an hourly wage job. Even the entry-level employees at my company get yearly salaries, paid sick days/vacation, and no overtime pay. We get paid the same amount no matter what, so that's an irrelevant solution and it's ridiculous that you're trying to ascribe it to everyone here.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-03 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
B) Unless you're on a scheduled break, I hope you do get caught and canned. You're not being paid to read F!S. You're being paid to work. Saying you've done enough so you deserve to get paid for the sheer hell of it is entitled and shitty because no, you fucking aren't, unless you're the company head and the one making the rules.

C) Promotions don't mean you're actually good your job or even doing much in the way of work. It's called nepotism and it happens all the fucking time, especially in offices. Unfortunately, I don't have a boss' boss to go to or even an HR, because it's a small company and the boss I'm referring to is where the buck stops. But that you would fire the person who's doing the extra work instead of the ones wasting your payroll on Farmville speaks volumes of how shitty a manager you are.

D) I've worked salaried jobs, too. And when there was nothing else to do, that boss sent people who were finished home early because there was no point in staying at the office with no work to do.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-03 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
B) I'm being paid to manage my department. I am constantly working longer workweeks than required, and I do not get paid for that. There's no reason I can't take some time at work to do other stuff if I'm going to be working overnight without getting paid for it anyway. I don't think you understand what I'm saying here. I am paid to make sure the job gets done, and if I can do it while fucking around on the internet occasionally, then I am successful at doing what I am paid to do.

C) Nepotism had nothing to do with my promotion. I wasn't friends with my bosses. I had only worked at the company a year. I was just good. I'm sorry that you work at a small company with no employee support structure; that is really sucky and a bad environment for you. But the point is still that just because you pick up slack for the losers who don't work and don't have any way to stop that from happening (which I'm still skeptical of, but I understand where you're coming from) doesn't mean that the rest of us who fuck around once in a while don't deserve our jobs. I absolutely WOULD fire the people wasting my payroll. I would just ALSO fire the people enabling them to do it. There are plenty of people who are neither slackers nor whiners in the world who I would rather have on my team.

D) I would never do that. Things come up daily that I can't anticipate, and I need my staff around to help out in the event of a crisis of some sort. It's better that they're here and fucking around on Facebook so I can grab them if I need them than that they're home and incommunicado. It's just not practical.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-03 02:18 pm (UTC)(link)
B) I have a hard time believing anybody can be successful at their job when they're too busy harvesting fake crops, sorry. And nothing you say is going to convince me otherwise.

C) Promotion to management after only a year without any connections? Yeah, calling bullshit. Especially if you'd fire the person who's actually getting work done just because you think they whine too much (which I don't, by the way; I keep my mouth shut and work my ass off).

D) That's what working from home and company cellphones are for.