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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-01 06:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #2099 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2099 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-10-02 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
You know that this is an argument used by anti-Semites to pretend they're not anti-Semites, right? Words have meaning and context. Yes, there is a group called "Semites" which is generally used to refer to Jews and Arabs mostly and a few other less known groups. But the term "anti-Semite" was specifically coined against JEWS. Anti-Semite = bigotry towards Jews specifically. People who say "I support the Palestinians who are a Semitic group therefore I am not an anti-Semite" are basically saying that the reason they can't be told they're showing bigotry towards Jews is because they have just re-defined what "bigotry towards Jews" means. i.e Nothing whatsoever to do with their attitudes towards Jews and everything to do with playing with words.

Call it anti-Semitism. Call it racism towards Jews. Call it Nora for all I care. But pointing out that the group of Semitic people is not the same as what people mean when they say anti-Semitic is not an argument that someone is not anti-Semitic, ie showing bigotry and prejudice towards Jews.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-02 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah, my argument is that people will say that Arabs are anti-Semitic without realizing that the Arabs in question are Semitic. Clearly, they don't hate themselves. They're anti-Jewish or anti-Israel, not anti-Semitic.

Semitic at its core is a language group developed from an Abrahamic concept (Shem, the son of Noah, is believed to be the ancestor of these groups) that has been extended to include various cultures and ethnicities. The definition was narrowed because of the prevalence of Jewish people in Europe as opposed to other Semitic people. When speaking of Semites, there was no need to further identify them as Jews. This has led to people thinking that semitic can only refer to those of the Jewish faith, which isn't true. It really only makes sense to use anti-Semitic in a context where the group doing the discrimination is not also Semitic.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-02 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
If an Arab hates Jews, he's anti-Semitic.