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From what I'm hearing people do think Romney won. He was on the attack he was assertive, Obama was passive and didn't rebuff him. I'm so damned depressed :/ I really did not think Romney was going to win the debate, but he did.

Yeah, that's what it seems like they're saying :\ I was actually listening more than watching, from the other room, but my mom had her own running commentary on how Romney was making himself look terrible (I guess I shouldn't take her word for things.) And it was definitely the best speaking I've heard Romney do BUT...I really don't think it's gonna help him that much. He contradicted himself and didn't really explain how his plans are gonna work. Maybe he technically won this but I also don't think there was a BIG TURNABOUT MOMENT where he made Obama lose all credibility...also, the rehearsed zingers were obvious.

Edited 2012-10-04 02:49 (UTC)

Romney had Rob Portman, who is an excellent debate coach. He's been rehearsing for quite some time now.

He still has a lot of bad blood to get over -- partly because he keeps opening his stupid mouth outside of controlled conditions like the debate.

First debate usually always goes to the challenger. Romney's going to be hung out to dry soon enough. More interesting is going to be the VP debate.

partly because he keeps opening his stupid mouth outside of controlled conditions like the debate.

Pretty much, yeah. That's why I'm not too bummed out about this.

i'm with you. i thought romney definitely won in presentation. obama was obviously improvising it on the go with all of his pauses/um's/restatements whereas romney had a much smoother flow. but romney also evaded a lot of questions & seemed to rely a lot on pretty buzzwords and a couple of times i just gave up trying to understand his stance/logic. like the moment when he berated obama for planning to cut medicare? last time i looked the gop platform was based on a smaller federal government? & if romney's supposed cuts are going through, he'll probably have to take a sizeable chunk out of medicare too? and his insistence on no government revenue + tax cuts to lower the deficit--wow way to put all of your eggs in the private sector basket...which fucked us over 4 years ago.

mostly i'm looking forward to romney getting his ass handed to him in the foreign policy debate. :D

Yeah and I mean, everyone kept saying "Oh, we're gonna have to see the REAL Romney tonight!" and he...didn't say anything different, even if he was well-rehearsed. IMO the only real Romney is the one in that leaked tape.

sure, what Romney said was nonsense, but it sounded good and was said with confidence and verve. ergo, Romney won the debate and in the minds of the American voter is the better candidate. America loves a smooth talker.

Just like Obama in the last election.

Man, I don't know why y'all seem loyal to individual parties. As far as I can tell from here, you've got two bad choices and a sown-up system. If it were me, I'd give this election up as a lost cause and concentrate on improving things for next time: so everyone this time should vote third party, well aware that no single third party will get enough votes to win, which will skew the percentages and make it clear that there's a huge body of the electorate motivated enough to vote, but so disgusted with choices and shenanigens presented to them that they won't vote for either party currently.

Then the big party that doesn't pay attention to this group will clearly miss all those votes next time, so both parties will have a very strong incentive to shift tactics.

Think long term.

Yep, that's what I'm doing. Both of these choices suck. Third party, all the way. I don't care if my vote "doesn't matter", at least I'll be making an actual statement with my vote instead of throwing it away on a candidate I don't actually want to be president.

See, you aren't making a statement. You're basically giving a chance to the greater evil. I'd rather have Obama over Romney who sees me as nothing but the worthless '47 percent'.

I dislike Obama and Romney about equally, so I wouldn't be happy to see either in office. It doesn't matter which one I vote for if those are my only two options.

EDIT: Also, I'm technically a registered Republican, so my vote for a third party is basically a vote for Obama, so don't worry too much.

Edited 2012-10-04 09:13 (UTC)

No, that's the sort of thinking the two big parties like to encourage, to make you think you have no alternative. But if you give this election up as a lost cause, you can achieve real change over the long term by voting third party. Honestly, there isn't enough actual difference (as opposed to hysterical fear-mongering about supposed differences) between the two parties for either one to be that much worse than the other over the next 4 years, so accept that the next 4 years are doomed and think about the long term.

What will scare them more: getting only 55% of the vote and winning, or getting only 40% of the vote and winning (by the skin of their teeth)? Which will make them actually care about your vote next time?

Oh, I'm voting third party.

I just dislike Romney a lot more than I dislike Obama. (and I think the picture I outlined is a pretty accurate picture of what happened tbh, with maybe a little more bitterness and cynicism than is justified)

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