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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-03 05:42 pm

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Perfect fictional characters (no, not Mary Sues)

(Anonymous) 2012-10-04 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Do you have any "perfect" characters in your fandoms?

By "perfect" I don't mean a perfect person. Not a Mary Sue-ish/Marty Stu-ish character, or a character with little to no flaws. I mean a character that is immensely satisfying in every single way.

Someone whose personality has never been the victim of bad writing or periods of character derailment or OOC moments, who has no aspects that rub you the wrong way (even if they have glaring personality flaws that rub other characters the wrong way, you acknowledge them and they don't affect your opinion of him/her), and who you would not want to change, remove, or add a single thing to their backstory thus far.

Not a perfect person, maybe even a really flawed person, but from a reader's/viewer's perspective on fiction, a perfect fictional character.
brightblueink: Fakir from Princess Tutu doing a ballet twirl while holding a sword. (Knight twirl)

Re: Perfect fictional characters (no, not Mary Sues)

[personal profile] brightblueink 2012-10-04 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
Well, that's awfully subjective. I'm sure any character that I could say would not be seen as perfectly well-written by someone else.

The first character that came to mind for me is Fakir from Princess Tutu. He's flawed as heck, but he has a really satisfying, perfectly paced out amount of character development and the way he contributes to the plot is IMMENSELY satisfying. He's also really, really well acted in both the Japanese and English dub. The only thing I can think to complain about is the fact that he's massively popular and has the lion's share of fanwork (but he's popular because he's hot and well-written, so I can't really fault that) and his hair style is sort of dumb. That's...basically it.
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Re: Perfect fictional characters (no, not Mary Sues)

[personal profile] jaydestarlight 2012-10-04 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
fuck yeah fakir! (i have nothing more productive to say haha)

Re: Perfect fictional characters (no, not Mary Sues)

(Anonymous) 2012-10-04 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
wow that's...kind of hard actually.

Maybe Zoe from Firefly? I liked her a lot

I thought Helen Parr in The Incredibles was pretty great too (though I guess since she was in a movie rather than a tv show, there wasn't as much time to screw her over with writing)
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Re: Perfect fictional characters (no, not Mary Sues)

[personal profile] caecilia 2012-10-04 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
I feel this way about all my favorite characters.

Re: Perfect fictional characters (no, not Mary Sues)

(Anonymous) 2012-10-04 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
Not really a "fandom."

But I got to give respect to Marian Halcombe, from Wilkie Collins' The Woman In White, who is just one of my favorite fictional characters of all time. She's intelligent, resourceful, courageous, loyal and devoted, quick-thinking, strong-willed. Despite the main character's kind of dismissive attitude towards her on account of her looks - she is not pretty (and I kind of want to quote the entirety of her initial description, because it's kind of amazingly old-fashioned and kind of terrible - her expression is found "altogether wanting in those feminine attractions of gentleness and pliability, without which the beauty of the handsomest woman alive is beauty incomplete") - she turns out to be thoroughly decent and completely willing to undertake real danger to protect those she loves. And all without ever being a Mary Sue - she feels real and believable, maybe because of the main character's and the author's somewhat dismissive attitude attitude towards her.

(The same book also has the villain equivalent of the perfect character in Count Fusco - and Marian's and Fusco's deep respect for each other, and Fusco's complete and total admiration of Marian, is one of my favorite hero / villain relationships in literature. but that's a story for another day) (read The Woman In White y'all)
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Re: Perfect fictional characters (no, not Mary Sues)

[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-10-04 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
MCU!Tony Stark comes pretty damn close for me, I think. Obviously nowhere near flawless as a person, but daaaaaaammmnn what a fantastically-written character arc. If you're going for "immensely satisfying" he sure as hell knocks it out of the park.

Re: Perfect fictional characters (no, not Mary Sues)

(Anonymous) 2012-10-04 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
KID LOKI

Re: Perfect fictional characters (no, not Mary Sues)

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2012-10-04 02:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Sam Vimes comes pretty close, although Snuff involved a little too much author wish-fulfillment.

Cordelia and Aral Vorkosigan don't get enough play.

A large part of my disgust with Marvel comes from Whedon's treatment of Kitty Pryde and Xavin. Xavin got a perfectly little genderqueer dialogue near the end of Vaughan's run.
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Re: Perfect fictional characters (no, not Mary Sues)

[personal profile] biohazardgirl 2012-10-04 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I am really very fond of Troy and Abed from Community.