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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-05 05:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2103 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2103 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Derren Brown - Trick of the Mind]


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04.
[Quantum Leap]


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[Necessary Roughness]


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07. http://imageshack.us/a/img811/3861/tumblrm9siebsjna1rym8lc.jpg
[nudity which is possibly sexual? / illustrated]


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[Team Starkid]


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[Teen Wolf]


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[Evangelion]


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[High School of the Dead]


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[ ----- SPOILERY SECRETS AHEAD ---- ]












15. [SPOILERS for Teen Wolf]



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16. [SPOILERS for Everything Burns/Journey Into Mystery]



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17. [SPOILERS for To Boldly Flee]



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18. [SPOILERS for Lord of the Rings]



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19. [SPOILERS for Homestuck]



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20. [WARNING for rape]



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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2012-10-05 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
He's being very illogical then as apart from the 'Sam is the true hero' stuff he also said Gollum would go to Hell. If that's because of another person's mistake I'm very happy to disagree with him. :D

(Anonymous) 2012-10-05 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

When did he say Gollum went to Hell?

(Anonymous) 2012-10-05 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
From his letters:

"to the ultimate judgement upon Gollum I would not care to enquire. This would be to investigate Goddes privitee’, as the Medievals said. Gollum was pitiable, but he ended in persistent wickedness, and the fact that this worked good was no credit to him. His marvellous courage and endurance, as great as Frodo and Sam’s or greater, being devoted to evil was portentous, but not honourable. I am afraid, whatever our beliefs, we have to face the fact that there are persons who yield to temptation, reject their chances of nobility or salvation, and appear to be ‘damnable’. Their ‘damnability’ is not measurable in the terms of the macrocosm (where it may work good). But we who are all ‘in the same boat’ must not usurp the judge. The domination of the Ring was much too strong for the mean soul of Sméagol. But he would have never had to endure it if he had not become a mean sort of thief before it

*Not quite ‘certainly’. The clumsiness in fidelity of Sam was ‘What finally pushed Gollum over the brink, when about to repent.

crossed his path. Need it ever have crossed his path? Need anything dangerous ever cross any of our paths? A kind of answer cd. be found in trying to imagine Gollum overcoming temptation. The story would have been quite different! By temporizing, not fixing the still not wholly corrupt Sméagol-will towards good in the debate in the slag hole, he weakened himself for the final chance when dawning love of Frodo was too easily withered by the jealousy of Sam before Shelob’s lair. After that he was lost."

(Anonymous) 2012-10-05 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
If I recall the same letter, Tolkien's own words were "Into the ultimate judgement upon Gollum I would not care to enquire. This would be to investigate 'Goddes privitee', as the Medievals said."

Nor does that contradict his previous comments, in which he stated Gollum almost repented to the point where he would have willingly thrown himself and the Ring into Mt. Doom.