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⌈ Secret Post #2103 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Derren Brown - Trick of the Mind]

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[Quantum Leap]

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[Necessary Roughness]

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07. http://imageshack.us/a/img811/3861/tumblrm9siebsjna1rym8lc.jpg
[nudity which is possibly sexual? / illustrated]

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[Team Starkid]

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[Teen Wolf]

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[Evangelion]

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[High School of the Dead]

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15. [SPOILERS for Teen Wolf]

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16. [SPOILERS for Everything Burns/Journey Into Mystery]

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17. [SPOILERS for To Boldly Flee]

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18. [SPOILERS for Lord of the Rings]

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19. [SPOILERS for Homestuck]

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20. [WARNING for rape]

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Here's the thing I was trying to ask:

Okay, question. On some other community that I stumbled on, some people were making what were (to me) odd and surprising statements about the necessity of graphical calculators for learning and carrying out calculus and other advanced maths. Some of these statements are excerpted below:

[After someone suggests younger students do not need a graphical calculator] Is he okay with scientific calculators, or should they all be looking up the evaluations of sin(21.7), etc, in tables somewhere?

Also, tbh, my math classes in HS were taught with a graphing calculator's capabilities in mind -- we certainly weren't taught, e.g. how to graph in radians by hand.

You're not doing numeric inverse trig integrals, or finding the solution to e^x = cos(2x) in chemistry, though. You NEED a graphing calculator for those things.

My question is, are these statements an accurate reflection of how maths is taught in American schools and understood by people who have gone through it, or is this person full of it?

You did ask this question

3 times

in response to the question about "what are you doing this weekend"

Oh, thanks, how odd. I definitely had it coming up as the reply screen for general comments. I'll see if Case can delete them....

we're not allowed to use our calculators for the most part in my current calculus class, but the prof does give us the ok to use it for evaluating trig functions if we need to do it fast so we can get on with the rest of the problem. easy things like sin/cos 30/60/45 etc are expected to be memorized though.

Ah, your experience sounds much like mine in the UK. That's one data point :)

We were required to have one in high school. In University, though, we weren't allowed to use one.

Take that how you will. (I took economics, geography, physics, chemistry, and stats classes, so nothing pure-math-y)

you didn't use calculators in chemistry? i've only taken 2 chemistry classes in college, but both of them allowed calculator use. their reasoning was that they wanted us spending more time working the actual chemistry and less time on basic arithmetic.
then again, all of the pure math classes have either been strictly no calculator or very limited calculator use.

Graphing calculators. We were supposed to use the basic ones.

ahhh. yeah, i dont see why anyone would need a graphic calc for basic chemistry anyhow

True--it was completely unnecessary in Chem. It would have been pretty damn useful in physics and stats, though.

How... strange. I exclusively graphed radians by hand in HS math. My school wasn't rich enough for those fancy ass calculators, so we were just provided with graph paper.

I graduated high school in '11 and as far as I know it is standard practice to use graphing calculators in high school anymore. Most students bought their own, but the school did have some extra.

In my university for the most part graphing calculators are allowed in classes, although I think a few classes ban them for specific tests/problems, but then they just say 'show your work or no credit'

I was in high school in the mid-/late-90s and a graphing calculator was never strictly required for me, but it became increasingly hard to get by without one because some teachers taught with the expectation that students had them, so they didn't teach how to do certain things by hand (annoying, really). I held out longer than most students, but then my parents both have graduate degrees in math-heavy subjects and could teach me how to do a lot of things without anything fancier than a scientific calculator.

It may depend on the specific math subject - no need for a graphing calculator in geometry class freshman year, for example, and I have no memory of needing it at all in college for my statistics courses.

Also, I was in an advanced math track in high school, so that may have had something to do with it?

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