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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-06 03:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2104 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-10-06 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
OK, I'll bite: Which skills/fields are you referring to? (It's late and I'm tired and my brain isn't working to try and think up some of my own.) I'm genuinely curious.

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-10-06 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know? Construction, trucking, oil rigging, engineering, aeronautics, multiple science fields, etc., etc. The list of fields that don't have a strong enough presence of women to be sustained in the event of all men suddenly dying is pretty big.

And in any case it's almost half the population. Male or female, the disappearance of that many workers would severely inhibit us logistically even if we didn't have to clean up the mess and the survivors didn't experience emotional trauma at suddenly losing a massive portion of their loved ones.


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[personal profile] brightblueink 2012-10-06 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
People would learn it again pretty quickly IMO. Men didn't spring out of their mother's wombs knowing how to build things way back in ancient times, they had to learn how to. Women could learn how to, too. Not to mention that knowledge of certain subjects wouldn't necessarily disappear with men--we live in a society that collects knowledge both in the internet and in books. And there are still SOME women with the skill sets you mentioned, so they could teach other women.

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-10-06 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay? Not saying that isn't true. But it would be pretty hellish for a while there.

I'm not claiming that the knowledge would disappear. Just that the skilled workers would. Even with textual information experience counts for a lot.

The level of organization and time required to find and train enough women to return society back to similar standards we lived at pre-XYapocalypse would be pretty significant.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-06 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, and it will vary greatly from one place to another. Think of what would happen in Saudi Arabia, where women are about 5% of the workforce, compared to, say, Iceland, where the prime minister is a woman.

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-10-06 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
This is a good point.

World relations would also be pretty hectic as something like only 20 of the 200+ world leaders are women.

I wouldn't be surprised if something like this vastly restructured world government and borders.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-06 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you. I'm in engineering in a developed world, and the gender discrepancy is very big. There are ten men to every woman training to become an engineer, and the actual gender discrepancy in the workforce is even greater.

If all the men suddenly died at once, there will not be enough women engineers to take over the men's jobs and to train new engineers at the same time. I imagine the situation will be more dire in small communities where there are only one or two skilled workers per specialized job.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-07 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I think a scenario where most (but not all, because that would make it next to impossible to produce any future generations) women died would be an equally interesting thought experiment.

If that happened, I think most health care systems would utterly collapse and factory production would drop dramatically for lack of workers.

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-10-07 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh I agree. Women make up a significant amount of our workers. Not just in factories. The health care system would obviously be the biggest hit just considering nurses (who come in a wide array of specialties) and home care administrators. But we're also talking doctors, technicians, pharmacists, health care industry workers, etc.

I think the childcare field is made up of something like 90% female workers. Education would take a pretty hard hit.

Pretty sure more than half of households are maintained or contributed to more by women than their male partner. Not to mention the influx of orphans from single-mother homes would be pretty overwhelming. Social services seems to have a significant number of women so that would be a double whammy.

Retail, hospitality, customer service, office workers etc. have always had pretty significant female presence.