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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-06 03:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2104 ]


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[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-10-06 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with your comment? Somewhat. Losing half of our population over time or not would be pretty drastic and would have a severely negative impact on society whether or not it happened over time or immediately.

Any large disaster that would disrupt the status quo like the one we're discussing would lead to different factions struggling for power which would impeded and delay progress.

The men being lost are people's children and loved ones. Some people respond well to adversity like that and others don't. So our population is halved, a portion of the survivors are skilled in areas we need and therefore can't pick up a new trade, another portion are physically or emotionally disabled or too young or elderly, it leaves us with very few women who could actually suddenly devote their lives to learning a new trade.

I'm sure there's a period of time that it could happen over that might allow us to transition with minimal or no ill effects. Perhaps instead of the men dying out humanity just stops have male children? I can see how that might work.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-07 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing is, even the people who were disabled would probably have to work somehow. It wouldn't just be male dominated fields that would be effected - half of most of the work force [in some places even more than that] would be gone. That also means that half of farmers [if not more] would be gone which would directly impact food production, and not in good ways, along with various other fields that would have a direct, negative impact. Everyone would probably have to pitch in somehow because of that - and, as far as the skilled women not being able to stop and train...bringing apprenticeship back to a larger degree could help take the load off since people would be learning on the job - and some jobs actually still do that in order to get trained. [Plumbing, for example, is one of the fields it's still used in.] It wouldn't be perfect, but it would be a way to get enough breathing room to properly train people.

Also, if it were a sudden thing, it probably wouldn't just be governments and borders that would get restructured - chances are society as a whole would end up completely changing, and it would be interesting to see what it ended up changing to, I think.

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-10-07 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I think maybe you're misunderstanding me. I'm not saying society would grind to a halt forever and ever. Just that there would be a period in time that would be pretty grim. And recovery from the direct effects of losing all the men would be impeded by the effects of that period of adjustment. We wouldn't be starting from the level of progress we have today, we'd be starting several steps behind and it would take us time to catch up.

If all men died tomorrow it would not be possible for women to step into the vacated rolls in less than a month and because of that thing would be pretty hard in most places. Even places where women were able to quickly get a good handle on everything there would be an adjustment in the quality of living at least temporarily.

And all of this speculation is happening without regard to the collateral damage (bodies of the infected, downed flights, car accidents, etc.), the emotional trauma, the inevitable infighting with factions struggling for power.

And, yes, I absolutely agree surprising and dramatic changes would occur on social and personal levels as well.
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