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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-06 03:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2104 ]


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OP

(Anonymous) 2012-10-06 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
And there are some people, me included, who have to live in that kind of heat, but with no money to buy AC. Amazing, isn't it.

You don't like what I'm saying, then go somewhere else where you don't feel you're being subjected to it. I'm not forcing you to stay here.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-10-07 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt
You do realize that what it seems you basically keep saying is that no one else's experiences count, no one else has ever suffered like you have suffered, right? Because that's really what it's coming off as, and that might be why you have trouble holding conversations with other people. Telling another person his/her POV doesn't count is a sure way of killing discussion. I don't doubt that your life has been rough, but you don't have a monopoly on poverty. I'm a child of the Mississippi Delta myself.

OP

(Anonymous) 2012-10-07 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
I realize that I've been coming at this in the completely wrong way, and I've been operating under a wrong set of ideas.

My aim wasn't to discount or diminish anyone or their feelings about their experiences, but the way I've been going about questioning was wrong. I am sorry that I offended you and others.

I've been trying to separate hardship in general from long term deprivation. I have learned that pretty much everyone has gone through some kind of hardship, and that's instructive for me. My further responses were trying to clarify my original point, not diminish others' experiences, by trying to distinguish general, short term hardship from long term poverty and deprivation.

Again, I'm really sorry, and I'm honestly not trying to win the oppression olympics.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] tasogare_n_hime 2012-10-07 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
I can't speak for anyone else, but from my own personal experience: When I was a kid we didn't have functioning AC till I was about 10 or 11. I didn't consider it being deprived, I still don't it was my childhood. I spent nearly my entire summers outside as a kid anyway, we had a hose in the yard, we had a creek, I never noticed. Not having electricity in winter was much bigger deal.

The thing is after we got it I'd gotten used having AC. After I was on my own and my AC died on me, when it got to the upper 90's, 100+ degree weather if I wasn't in my bedroom with the door shut I got physically ill. I had to get myself used to not having AC again so I could get stuff I needed to do done, and not get sick, Not having AC became a very big deal for me in a way it never would have when I was a kid.

Whether other people went through what I did or not after losing their AC I can very easily understand why it would be a very big deal to them.

OP again

(Anonymous) 2012-10-07 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry to hear that you got sick, and I definitely understand why it would be a big deal to you. That particular comment was made in light-hearted commiseration, rather than a sense of snide judgment.

I am sorry that my comments have sounded like I was judging people. This was never my intentions, nor was it to play oppression olympics or prove that I had it worse than other people. I should have framed it differently, and all I can do now is apologize in retrospect for my carelessness.

My intent was never to discard other peoples' experiences or feelings during them. When I was providing examples, I was trying, rather poorly, to clarify the kind of situation I meant. Namely, I was trying to figure out how many people have had experiences with long term poverty and deprivation, rather than short term hardship or deprivation.

Any kind of hardship or deprivation is scary and hard to deal with, and I've never wanted to discount that or peoples' feelings. I realize I went about it in a fundamentally wrong way, and I should have phrased it differently.

I really am sorry.