[ SECRET POST #2105 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2105 ⌋

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Comments

[anonymouslyyours]

We're almost having two separate arguments here. At no point did I say "squicks" deserve to be included into trigger warnings.

I don't appreciate when people devalue the meaning of "trigger warning" and I don't commonly see what you are describing with "broad categories". I can probably count times I did on one hand. They certainly don't seem harmful enough to throw out the entire concept of trigger warnings.

If a person has a specific trigger like "rape involving men with beards" wouldn't they avoid rape fics, rape fics involving men, or at least stick to prompts involving characters they know do not have facial hair if the comm won't accommodate that specific trigger?

I believe we should cover at least common trigger warnings, people with specific triggers can usually extrapolate from that if the risk if too great, and I personally have been on comms where a member has politely asked us to add for a specific, personal trigger and people did and there were no problems.

I understand you can't warn for everything and people should keep that in mind if their trigger warning doesn't make a kinkmeme's list. I don't think there should be backlash on people who make mistakes when warning, but I don't believe that should mean kinkmemes should be no-go zones for people with PTSD and effort to attempt to include others can certainly be made.

I think what it comes down to is that I am grateful to have so many people who put in the time and effort to create safe spaces for me to enjoy free content, sometimes even geared toward my wishes. I don't see a problem with a little extra effort to include other people. Especially considering the people who need trigger warnings are probably benefited by places to unwind more than I am.

[velvet_mace]

There are no common triggers. Everyone's trigger is specific to them and their trauma. PTSD is not the same as just feeling icky when you are squicked, though a lot of people seem to be conflating them together.

So what you have is a lot of people who genuinely have PTSD who aren't being given any trigger warning because their trigger is for something like the words "Hey baby." And other people who are not triggered are complaining that the lack of trigger warnings, or wrong trigger warnings and making a huge confusing fuss about what needs to be warned for and what doesn't.

I'm not making this up -- this actually happened on a meme, multiple times, with people with actual PTSD triggers chiming in saying this wasn't helpful to them.

As to why may someone with a trigger read a non-con fic -- a lot of rape victims have non-con kinks. They may enjoy reading most non-con, just not one with that one particular thing in it. I was talking with someone the other day about them being triggered by a noncon fic and saying that normally she enjoy them, but the way the characters talked in that one fic triggered her.

I understand that you want a safe space that is geared towards your wishes -- I think we'd all like that, but you and I just two people, and ultimately it is not everyone else's responsibility to go out of their way to provide us that. Especially in this case, where it is demonstratively impossible for fandom to comply.

[(Anonymous)]

You know, I like you. You always have really well thought out comments, you address things calmly, and you're generally a pretty pleasant human being. I even agree with you most of the time.

This is not one of those times. :/