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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-11 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2109 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2109 ⌋

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Re: How do you guys feel about the butt-monkey trope?

[personal profile] pantswarrior 2012-10-12 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
If I'm reading this right, that would be one reason I can't seem to watch modern sitcoms. I used to love sitcoms, then one day I was watching an episode of Frasier and I realized that it, and every other episode I'd seen recently, as well as any episode of any other sitcom I was watching at the time, was nothing but a parade of really unfortunate things happening which were supposed to be funny - but honestly would be really depressing and sometimes outright tragic if they actually were happening in the real world. I couldn't enjoy sitcoms any more after I realized that they all apparently hinged on the characters suffering for laughs.

Except That 70s Show. That one somehow got the comedy recipe right for me.
intrigueing: (spider-fail)

Re: How do you guys feel about the butt-monkey trope?

[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-10-12 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Hee, the parade of horrible ridiculously unlucky misfortunes that plagued the Crane family for no good reason was possibly my favorite thing about Frasier :)

What I can't stand, though, is when nothing good ever happens to characters. If a mix of really good and really fucking awful happens to their lives, I love it, but if it's all crap with no light, I just can't with it.
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Re: How do you guys feel about the butt-monkey trope?

[personal profile] pantswarrior 2012-10-12 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
I seem to remember that the thing that pushed me over the limit into recognizing it as uncomfortable was the episode where they met some famous author or another (can't remember if it was even a real author or not anymore) who had written but never published a sequel to his single famous book, and Frasier and Niles stole the draft and read it behind his back, and then it got accidentally destroyed, and they had to confess to what they'd done. Maybe it's because I write (longfic) myself, but that was such a horrible, horrible thing to have happen, for everyone involved, and I found no humor in it whatsoever... and then I realized that most episodes were like that.
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Re: How do you guys feel about the butt-monkey trope?

[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-10-12 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Oh man that episode O.O I was like "nooooooooooo" the entire time but the damn thing was so hilarious and well-acted it was just like a glorious trainwreck.

You're right that most episodes are like that, though. I think my top favorite gag of all time from that show was where the episode opened in medias res with a bunch of guests in the process of storming out of a disastrous dinner of theirs, and there was a bunch of baffling Noodle Incident-type references -- live goats in the kitchen, burning toupees, flaming kababs, Frasier claiming to have tourette's syndrome, Martin pretending he was an Italian count, and none of it was explained at all but it didn't need to be because that type of epic disaster and web of lies happens to them in every third episode :D