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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-11 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2109 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2109 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 023 secrets from Secret Submission Post #301.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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elialshadowpine: ([MLP] pinkie pie :D :D :D)

Re: HRRRRNNNNNNGH this took forever to type up

[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2012-10-12 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
OMG you are amazing, thank you! That's incredibly helpful, since we know so many comics go back and forth on quality even within a short period of time.

Ty for the torrent link; I was wondering where to find all these. LOL

BTW you mentioned the Civil War storyline earlier above I think; would you be able to summarize what's wrong with it? I have heard really bad things about it but nothing concrete enough to pass on, and he's been considering starting there since it is relatively recent, which, the impression I've gotten is that it would be a bad idea.

TY again <3
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Re: HRRRRNNNNNNGH this took forever to type up

[personal profile] dethtoll 2012-10-12 01:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Did I mention Civil War? Are you sure you're not confusing me with someone else? I mostly focus on DC, and that's a Marvel event.

That being said, Civil War kind of sucks, but what do you expect? Marvel have always been transparently leftist to a fault (it's why they always kill off Captain America when a Republican is president) and Civil War is no different, though it's more disappointing because they claimed it would be an even-handed look at both sides of the issue being presented (should superheroes register and unmask and become sanctioned by the government?) The problem was that the pro-registration side (exemplified by Tony Stark) was skewed towards the villainous, with comparison of the Registration Act to slavery, and portrayals of most everyone in government having some sort of sinister agenda, including the President, who says that the only votes that matter are the ones the coming November, not the ones 50 years from now when the US is a totalitarian state in a world-wide civil war as a direct result of the Registration Act. Tony Stark, who is otherwise one of the more well-rounded characters in a universe full of largely badly-written characters, is reduced to little more than repeating "it's the law it's the law" rather than presenting any cohesive argument.

The only characters portrayed in a good light are the anti-registration superheroes, and Marvel claimed Civil War was going to present a balanced view of the issue. Who else do we know is blindly partisan yet makes claims of being balanced? It could've been an opportunity to show the good and bad points of both sides but was turned into a commentary on US foreign and domestic policy circa 2006 (including the line "unregistered combatants." Fuck me raw.)
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Re: HRRRRNNNNNNGH this took forever to type up

[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2012-10-12 01:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Hah, yes, I confused you with someone else who had responded to me elsewhere >_< It has been One Of Those Days.

That sounds like a clusterfuck, and really OOC for Tony from what I know of the character (which is admittedly more towards the movies than the comics0. o.O Pity, as it sounds like an interesting idea but it sounds like the execution really sucked. :-\
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I swear I'm not the OP for #19

[personal profile] dethtoll 2012-10-12 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Welcome to Marvel Comics. They do this sort of thing a lot and it really sucks. "One More Day," the Spiderman continuity reboot alone, my god. When DC wants to erase continuity, it's a universe-destroying Crisis. When Marvel wants to erase continuity? Satan. What makes it particularly insulting is that it shows just how much of a complete idiot Spidey is. I think Spiderman may be Marvel's single worst superhero. You know, if not for the fact that Joss Whedon directed the Avengers movie, I might actually have bothered to watch it because FUCKING SPIDERMAN ISN'T IN IT.

Marvel's editorial board needs to be lined up against a wall for the shit they've pulled over the last 30 years. Probably the only character Marvel has that's consistently written decently is Deadpool, which is hilarious because A) he was a more interesting ripoff of DC's C-list villain/anti-hero (depending on whether he shows up in Teen Titans or Suicide Squad) Deathstroke and 2) Rob Leifeld came up with him. I mean, Deathstroke's name is Slade Wilson for crying out loud.

I think what I also hate about Marvel is their pandering. The Spiderman 9/11 issue, holy fucking shit. You haven't seen anything until you've seen fucking Doctor Doom shedding a tear through that mask of his. DC has made a point of avoiding this, and their reasoning is that worse stuff happens all the time, everything from alien invasions (see: Invasion!) to outright complete destruction of cities (see: Death and Return of Superman) so to dedicate focus on real-life disasters would cheapen them and lessen their impact, and feel like pandering (see: Spiderman 9/11 issue.) It also brings up the side issue of how to deal with these real-world issues -- does Aquaman or Superman show up to stop the tsunami? But that would make it feel fake and kind of disrespectful, wishful thinking, because the tsunami still hit the real-world Japan.

Marvel has the opportunity to really make some great comics, if they would just. Stop. Pushing the writers around. And maybe be a little less transparently pushing their personal political views. And maybe get rid of Spiderman, that asshole.