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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-13 03:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #2111 ]


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[personal profile] yeahscience 2012-10-14 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
To be honest, it's kind of coming across like you don't really get the connotations of misogyny, either. No one is suggesting that Paul Ryan personally hates all women. What we are saying is that his policies, decision, and actions harm women and are hateful to women, and that makes him a hater of women. A misogynist isn't necessarily someone who is personally cruel to every woman. I knew a guy who was very polite and charming to women, but also once expressed the view that successful men were "owed" attractive women and sex, and that women were prizes to be obtained and showed off. Is that not misogyny? He had been perfectly kind to me up until that moment.

In this case, anyway, Ryan has absolutely indicated with his votes that he views women as less than himself. We don't deserve equal pay or medical care. We don't even deserve safety. We don't count.

And frankly, I do agree that any anti-abortion policy is a misogynist policy for much the same reasons as Biden and the anons in this thread have said: that it removes a woman's right to make decisions about her own body and health and instead imposes a male-led government's standard on her. But that is far from the only reason people are calling Paul Ryan a misogynist scumbag.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-14 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
You cleared up a lot in this comment. I assumed the English word "misogynist" meant someone who hates all women (or "woman-hater", as the dictionary says), which clearly is not the case since he loves the women in his family. Yes, some of his policies are certainly harmful to women, and it saddens me that someone in this day and age would support some of these sexist things.

Wow, that man from your story sounds like an absolute horror! I hope you warned your female friends about him! It is not only depressing that he holds that view, but also because he has no shame telling someone openly!

I respect your view on abortion even if I myself do not believe that being against abortion means misogynist. Because ways of exercising that right can lead to the death of another living being, I feel that there is more of a gray area in that regard.