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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-13 03:21 pm

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caecilia: (Default)

Re: Southeast Asian looking at no. 16

[personal profile] caecilia 2012-10-14 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
It's just that the Republican party in recent years has become pretty messed up. They've made some radical religious beliefs part of their official platform, especially with social issues. There are people within the party who are sensible and most Republicans I've met are perfectly fine and not hateful people at all. Usually they describe themselves as "fiscally Conservative, but socially liberal" probably to separate themselves from the members of the party who are actually pretty terrible. Right now the official Republican platform includes restricting rights for lgbt people and women, as well as some terrifying policies that would hurt the middle class and the very poor. Ever since Obama took office, there has been a lot of thinly/not-at-all veiled racial animosity towards him, and a lot of it comes from prominent members of the Republican party (fueled by the Tea Party which is a smaller more extreme fringe group that sprang up immediately after the 2008 election and is for all intents and purposes part of the Republican party? It's confusing. They consider themselves a separate party, I think, but some Republicans have adopted their ideals), including the ones who were running in the Presidential primary, as well as the current candidate. There have also been efforts to suppress minority voters in many states, because poor/non-white/young people tend to vote liberal.

tl;dr - "Republicans" aren't bad by definition, but unfortunately some fringe members who are out of touch with reality/possibly just hateful people have become the face of the party.
Edited 2012-10-14 05:42 (UTC)
al28894: (England is Perplexed)

Re: Southeast Asian looking at no. 16

[personal profile] al28894 2012-10-14 02:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, thank you for answering my question!

Question. Is the Tea Party some sort of third party? Because from what I hear America only seems to have only two large parties.
Edited 2012-10-14 14:32 (UTC)
caecilia: (bel)

Re: Southeast Asian looking at no. 16

[personal profile] caecilia 2012-10-14 02:52 pm (UTC)(link)
We only have two major parties but we have some smaller ones, and lately the Libertarians have gotten more momentum and will probably emerge as the Third Party pretty soon. (Yippee.) The Tea Party...I think they wanted to be a separate party, but it just started as a group of protests? Against Obama? For apparently NO REASON? (Their reason was that he was black a Socialist and he was going to raise everybody's taxes.) I wouldn't define them as Republicans (wiki says they're part Republican, part libertarian, part populist) but they've pretty much infiltrated the Republican party. Although it should be noted that the Republican party already had some problems before the Tea Party happened.*

A lot of their Tea Partiers** are prominent in the Republican party, either as politicians, or people who give them ridiculous amounts of money. Michelle Bachmann, who was running in the Presidential primary (so basically, she had a shot at being where Mitt Romney is right now), is one of them.

*Not to say that the Democrats don't have problems. Or that the whole two-party system isn't in itself a problem. Or that the Libertarians are wonderful and the solution to everything.

**Fun fact, I'm pretty sure they called themselves 'teabaggers' at first, until it was pointed out to them that that was a sexual term. Now if you call them that it's apparently a "slur" and you should stop oppressing them (This is based on one interaction I've had with one of them)

...I hope this makes some kind of sense, sorry, I'm probably making it even more confusing. I'm NOT a politics expert, by the way, the tv in my house is just constantly on political news channels.
Edited 2012-10-14 15:55 (UTC)

Re: Southeast Asian looking at no. 16

(Anonymous) 2012-10-14 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
lolno on the "they called themselves teabaggers at first." No, some TV reporters called them that and then everyone started using it as an insult.
caecilia: (Jade 8D)

Re: Southeast Asian looking at no. 16

[personal profile] caecilia 2012-10-14 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I stand corrected! Sorry about that.

Re: Southeast Asian looking at no. 16

(Anonymous) 2012-10-14 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
The Tea Party is mostly, at this point, a right-wing movement or faction within the Republican Party.

The Tea Party started out as a far-right-wing protest against government regulation of business that was outside of parties. It originated when a guy called Rick Santelli went on this rant about how awesome stock traders are and how terrible the government is for blaming them for things, and then this protest movement sprang up out of that (a lot of people accuse it of being... uh... aided along by money from, and organized by, super-wealthy conservatives). So it started as a super-conservative economic protest, and as time went on, it just became a general term for the organized far-right-wing of American politics, and it also became associated with the Republican party, because it made sense for both sides to do so - the Republicans extended a hand because it got their votes and their support for the Republican party, and the Tea Party got a quick and easy path to power. And since then they're basically tried to remake the Republican party in their own image, and expel anyone insufficiently right wing.

So, yeah. It's just the organized far-right-wing (although not explicitly nationalist or racist in the same way that a far-right-wing group might be in other places - although there are a lot of racists in it, it's not a hate group, it's not the KKK or neo-nazis - they're not Actual Fascists).