[ SECRET POST #2111 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2111 ⌋

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Comments

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

DA

You are completely misinterpreting the other anon. But let's look on the bright side: we can make a learning experience out of it!

If you hold the belief that Thing X is always Way Y, no matter what (in this case, Group X is "people who ship," and Attribute Y is "unstable"), and that is a belief beyond question for you, then you are no longer looking at the situation with any sense of objectivity. Every piece of information you come across about Group X will be interpreted through the lens that they are going to be Attribute Y, even if the information isn't actually pointing in that direction.

Let's use a very harmless example, say, that someone believes all people who knit are elderly. They overhear someone say, "Alice left her knitting bag in the waiting room again." They'll think: "Alice? Old lady name! She keeps forgetting her stuff? Well, that's what happens when you get on in years." But many younger women are also named Alice, and people of all ages can be forgetful. Alice could be elderly, but she's not necessarily elderly. In fact, there's not much evidence for either side. And because that person is so sure that only old people knit, they've wrongly estimated the probability of their beliefs applying to Alice.

We call this confirmation bias. Get it? Because someone with confirmation bias is biased in favor of confirming the beliefs they already hold! Everyone has confirmation bias to some extent, but try not to let it become absolute. C:

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

SA

Also, it's interesting that you bring up religion as something equal to shipping. Many people who are critical of religion view confirmation bias as one of its bigger flaws.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

you are no longer looking at the situation with any sense of objectivity

When did I ever say I was? That's you making stupid assumptions. You aren't helping your case =D

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

"=D"

Oh. It's you again.

You must be one bored-ass fucker.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

Yep. And you people make it so easy.

FTR, though, I really do think shippers have a few screws loose. And no amount of defensive anecdotes are going to convince me otherwise.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, I'm actually curious now. Can you explain why you think shippers are crazy, or is it just "shippers are crazy because shippers are crazy"?

While you're at it, do you think caring about romance in general is crazy, or that caring about fictional characters in general is crazy? What about "shipping" that doesn't come from a wider fandom tradition of shipping- like somebody who watches soaps and hopes for their favorite couple to get together, but doesn't participate in any sort of soap fan community?

Not being defensive, genuinely curious how this works.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

I think shippers are crazy because they just are, based on what I've observed in fandom. No other fandom interest I've ever seen has generated nearly as much wank and batshit and WTF as shipping. None.

And I think people care entirely too much about romance in general, yes. If you're invested enough to have any attachment to whether two people who don't exist will have nonexistent sex, there's something wrong with you upstairs.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

Is caring about whether a particular characters survives or reaches his/her goal crazy, as well? I.e, is it emotional investment in fictional characters in general that's distasteful, or just emotional investment in fictional romance?

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

Caring about whether a character dies or accomplishes what they set out to do is kind of a given. Otherwise, there's no point even paying attention to the story in the first place. It's caring about fictional romance (when romance isn't the story's point; caring about romance in a Harlequin book is like caring about explosions in a Michael Bay film) that's crazy.