[ SECRET POST #2111 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2111 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Fairly sure you won't see this because it was a few days ago but isn't this all a matter of interpretation?

Henry V is seen as cinematic gold because of the battle scenes but it starts with a Chorus apologising for not having visual effects, basically. There wouldn't have been hoards of soldiers on the stage of the Globe for Henry to address - and Shakespeare writes for the theatre of his time. So really, it's not a huge stretch to have the speeches addressed to small groups of people - why wouldn't the higher-ups need bucking up? They're the ones leading the charge.

I've also always read the wooing scene as intentionally inept and school disco-like. It's always going to be bathetic after the charge of the battle scenes, and there are some very sinister undertones: for all the playfulness, Katherine (who Henry diminished to Kate) doesn't really have a choice but must be bought and sold as part of a political bargain ('transactional', as you put it so well. In Hiddleston's performance, Henry was aware of this and caught between chivalry and pragmatism.

I really loved Henry V (it was my surprise favourite of the Hollow Crown series); all I'm saying is that you seem to be stating your objections as fact, when really it boils to this: it didn't match your interpretation or received ideas of what Henry V 'should be like'.

[(Anonymous)]

I am glad you replied, but sorry my tone seemed to be wrong. My interpretation is not particularly special and I certainly don't see it as fact :D

I found the acting to be excellent and a lot of the mood choices very good, but I was complaining from a more filmic and cinematographic point of view, which is possibly unfair for the budget - but I was so surprised by the visual freshness and bold little touches in 'Richard II', that the rest looked very conventional in comparison.

On rewatching, the 'tiny band' speeches work within the context of *this* play, possibly ('in my opinion', obviously - a phrase that shouldn't need continual restating among thinking people, surely). I think, hm, that it's a little off to have such downbeat speeches in such a traditionally-shot-and-costumed setting.

Because the mythical Henry was such a hero to people that a 'classical' interpretation of the play, as I would make from this BBC brief, would contain more stir and trumpet in the Big Two speeches. The hushed and tired speeches here are excellent in their own way but I think I would have found them more suited to a modern-dress production, or another alternative directorial concept.

Now, I know that these things exist on a continuum and that this is not conceived as a plain 'bung the play on tape for schools to use' version, but maybe it means I should re-watch it as less straight than it looks? Thanks for bringing me to considering it that way.

Basically, 'Richard II' was so brilliant that everything else fell in its shade.