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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-14 03:46 pm

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[personal profile] visp 2012-10-14 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
And you both beat me to it. That's just how it goes. You have people making up fiction about real people, so yeah, you're going to get the creepy and the boundary-blurring. What's more, K-pop is heavy on pretty and pre-packaged image and light on talent, so it's going to appeal more to a younger audience, with all that having younger fans entails. (not that older fans can't be their own special brand of crazy.)

(Anonymous) 2012-10-15 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
I'm really curious where this "light on the talent" thing is coming from. There are just as many accomplished writer/producers in K-fandom bands as there are in American pop music. Actually, I think there are more accomplished lyricists, because the only two who occur to me in the US pop market are Gaga and TSwift, and well. Let me round that down to one accomplished lyricist and one astonishingly popular Republican shill.

It seems like a good half of the English speaking members of K-fandom actually hate pop music as a genre and are only in it for the pretty, which seems like a fairly shitty reason to be in a fandom rooted in a creative art form. :/
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[personal profile] visp 2012-10-15 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
They're reasonably talented dancers, I'll give them that, but generally are picked by companies for their ability to look pretty and attract fans, as opposed to any true creative or musical talent, and pretty much everything about them is created by the record companies.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-15 07:28 am (UTC)(link)
... This is why Taeyang, GD, TOP, and Daesung from Big Bang, Bang Yong Guk, Jonghyun from SHINee, Leeteuk, Donghae, Eunhyuk, and Henry from SuJu, Junhyung from Beast, and Jinyoung from B1A4 all have lyrics and production credits on their songs, sometimes without any others credited. Since composition and lyrics creds are where all the money is, it's not like producers are super eager to hand those out.

Forgetting that off the top of my head I can think of five male idols who are skilled enough pianists to win positions in regional philharmonics in the US. And Seohyun from SNSD who took up classical piano as a hobby and occasionally films herself playing sonatas at a level equal to a number of my friends in college who were music majors.

It's not like South Korea has a dearth of skilled musicians, thanks in part to the "Tiger Mom" phenom and partially due to music education actually being taken seriously there. Really, becoming a trainee has more to do with proving that you're pretty enough to distinguish yourself from all of the other people with tons of talent who can't also be styled to look like they just got beamed down from Planet Fairy.

I mean, ffs, Onew from SHINee covered Nessun Dorma for their first official concert as his solo song, because he enjoys singing opera for fun.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-15 01:28 pm (UTC)(link)
And there you go being ignorant again.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-16 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
indeed