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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-14 03:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2112 ]


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mekkio: (Default)

[personal profile] mekkio 2012-10-14 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, but mixed races covers so many things. For every mixed kid like myself or Wentworth, there is;

Danny Pudi (Indian/Polish. But identifies more with the Polish side since that was the culture he was raised in. Even speaks Polish.)


or

Richard Ayoade (Nigerian/Norwegian)


Obviously, the two above would be considered POCs but, again, how about Wentworth? Does it really boil down to looks if someone is a POC on paper but doesn't look it in real life?
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2012-10-14 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Thing is, if Wentworth counts as mixed race, so do I. And I'm about similarly pale. I think there are two different things in play here. One is personal identity, and that's different for everyone. I don't know this Danny Pudi guy well - but let's assume his personal identity is mixed-but-leaning-to-Polish. Which is fair enough. My personal identity is also culturally mixed (but also leaning more to my Eastern European side).

However, there is also they way you are perceived, and that's a different matter. So the funny thing is, that on an emotional level, me and this Danny guy might have a relatively similar sense of personal identity.

However, in practice, he will be perceived a racially mixed and I won't - he might face racism, and I won't. He might face discrimination at first glance, while I might only face it if I specifically choose not to speak the language of the land. And that does make a difference.

For some things, sadly, it does boil down to looks. And in mixed families, you might even have siblings that are perceived in different ways. I think that's a reality that no-one has a clean cut answer for.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-14 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Not to mention, there are some (like myself) that turn out looking totally ambiguous or nothing at all like their parents' eternities. I half Asian, half European; I get a variety of different assumptions about my background, but the most common is Native American.

So, it kinda bugs me when people say to mixed people "you are what you look like", because I know nothing about Native Americans or their culture or anything. Not only that, there a tons of Native Americans who look 'whiter' than I do, and it's really unfair for people to deny them their identity just because they don't fit a stereotypical image of a Native American should look like.

Not saying you think this way, it's just some attitudes I've encountered before.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2012-10-14 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I get that. Basically the moment that a population starts mixing in significant numbers you don't have one-size-fits-all solutions anymore. I think the best we can hope for is that in 100, 200 years people perceptions of race will just be different altogether.